Mihailo1994 13 Posted Thursday at 08:58 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:58 PM Hello all! I wanted to share and to ask for some help regarding floats for albatros w.4. As i'm new to modeling (started last year just before wnw closed up) and new to 3d modeling i wanted to tackle albatros conversion to w.4 starting with floats. I have found few blueprints regarding dimensions, but can't find any detailed or clear photos of the floats. So any help is more than welcome! Here are few photos of current stage of bottom part of the float, are these detailes any good? Should i add something, or remove something? Thanks in advance! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff 7,308 Posted Thursday at 09:26 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:26 PM Hi, and welcome to the 'club'..... the floats look great to me.... 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mihailo1994 13 Posted Thursday at 09:35 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 09:35 PM Thank you Jeff! Will start with top part tomorrow, this is how it looked after first print prototype and after that i have made few changes to bottom part, and wanted to see if i did "good" job on it (should i change, add, remove something) 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff 7,308 Posted Thursday at 10:20 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:20 PM Personally, I really like the looks of this, and if by chance you want to see an outstanding rendition of painted and detailed floats, check out Doc Rob's builds, he absolutely has the detailed weathering down to perfection. He could make these beauties shine..... I'm no expert on these older floats, I know a little about Edo floats, but these look really good.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mihailo1994 13 Posted Thursday at 10:30 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 10:30 PM Any link to him? Would love to see some build logs! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DocRob 8,659 Posted Friday at 08:21 AM Share Posted Friday at 08:21 AM Hello Mihailo and welcome to this friendly and competent corner of the web. You started a very interesting project with the W.4, and I will follow your build closely, because I have a soft spot for seaplanes and flying boats, even better, if they are made of wood, metal and cloth. The top of your floats, looks like mine with the circular openings, which need handles and the metal enforcements. I have rapidly looked at only two pics of a W.4 from Wikipedia and on both, the tail end of the floats is lowering, where yours have an even deck, but it's only a first impression. I'm absolutely not an expert on WWI seaplanes, but have given my second WNW build, the Hansa Brandenburg W.12 some thoughts. I modified the floats, by adding dents into the sides, because pictures show, (E.G. WNW documentation) that they were dented, like the outer layer of tin has formed some dents, by the influence of the elements or other physical events. I also used a multi layer painting technique, because in my case, the floats were covered with a black tar like paint and I wanted to have them appear worn and exposed to salt and algae residues. This is the build log, if you are interested. Das Kamel - Hansa Brandenburg W.12 - LSM Work In Progress - Large Scale Modeller The finished W.12 Hansa Brandenburg W.12 Das Kamel, Sylt 1918 RFI - LSM Aircraft Finished Work - Large Scale Modeller Cheers Rob 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mihailo1994 13 Posted Friday at 11:02 AM Author Share Posted Friday at 11:02 AM Made some progress on both top and bottom part, will test print again to see how it looks 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Mihailo1994 13 Posted Friday at 03:03 PM Author Share Posted Friday at 03:03 PM 6 hours ago, DocRob said: Hello Mihailo and welcome to this friendly and competent corner of the web. You started a very interesting project with the W.4, and I will follow your build closely, because I have a soft spot for seaplanes and flying boats, even better, if they are made of wood, metal and cloth. The top of your floats, looks like mine with the circular openings, which need handles and the metal enforcements. I have rapidly looked at only two pics of a W.4 from Wikipedia and on both, the tail end of the floats is lowering, where yours have an even deck, but it's only a first impression. I'm absolutely not an expert on WWI seaplanes, but have given my second WNW build, the Hansa Brandenburg W.12 some thoughts. I modified the floats, by adding dents into the sides, because pictures show, (E.G. WNW documentation) that they were dented, like the outer layer of tin has formed some dents, by the influence of the elements or other physical events. I also used a multi layer painting technique, because in my case, the floats were covered with a black tar like paint and I wanted to have them appear worn and exposed to salt and algae residues. This is the build log, if you are interested. Das Kamel - Hansa Brandenburg W.12 - LSM Work In Progress - Large Scale Modeller The finished W.12 Hansa Brandenburg W.12 Das Kamel, Sylt 1918 RFI - LSM Aircraft Finished Work - Large Scale Modeller Cheers Rob Thanks Rob! What do you mean by tail is lowering? I got w12 few weeks ago! Finaly got one after almost a year of search...and was looking for w12 build logs and i actually bookmarked yours! Lol Today i was working on top part, and i think it came out good? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DocRob 8,659 Posted Friday at 03:31 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:31 PM 23 minutes ago, Mihailo1994 said: What do you mean by tail is lowering? Hi Mihailo, when I see your floats, it seems that the deck is flat lengthways Except in your very first picture), where the two pics in the German Wikipeda entry show a lowering deck for the W.4 floats to the aft side. The W.12 is a great kit, it needs some modifications, specially around the engine, but it was a pure pleasure build. Cheers Rob 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mihailo1994 13 Posted Friday at 07:27 PM Author Share Posted Friday at 07:27 PM 3 hours ago, DocRob said: Hi Mihailo, when I see your floats, it seems that the deck is flat lengthways Except in your very first picture), where the two pics in the German Wikipeda entry show a lowering deck for the W.4 floats to the aft side. The W.12 is a great kit, it needs some modifications, specially around the engine, but it was a pure pleasure build. Cheers Rob Sorry Rob! Did you mean like first photo attached bellow? Because as i understanded, thats early type/prototype of w.4, and later type had flat lenghtwise like on 2nd pic and like floats that i made correct me if i'm wrong! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DocRob 8,659 Posted Friday at 08:50 PM Share Posted Friday at 08:50 PM 1 hour ago, Mihailo1994 said: Sorry Rob! Did you mean like first photo attached bellow? Because as i understanded, thats early type/prototype of w.4, and later type had flat lenghtwise like on 2nd pic and like floats that i made correct me if i'm wrong! No worries Mihailo, I was just describing, what I saw on the first pics, I had ever seen of the type, therefore my question. I'm no expert. Your floats look great and the deck details on the later pictures of your prints look perfect. Cheers Rob 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mihailo1994 13 Posted 21 hours ago Author Share Posted 21 hours ago Final test print! Looks good to me! 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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