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Hello all!

I wanted to share and to ask for some help regarding floats for albatros w.4.

As i'm new to modeling (started last year just before wnw closed up) and new to 3d modeling i wanted to tackle albatros conversion to w.4 starting with floats. I have found few blueprints regarding dimensions, but can't find any detailed or clear photos of the floats. So any help is more than welcome! 

Here are few photos of current stage of bottom part of the float, are these detailes any good? Should i add something, or remove something? 

Thanks in advance!

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Thank you Jeff!

Will start with top part tomorrow, this is how it looked after first print prototype and after that i have made few changes to bottom part, and wanted to see if i did "good" job on it (should i change, add, remove something)

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Personally, I really like the looks of this, and if by chance you want to see an outstanding rendition of painted and detailed floats, check out Doc Rob's builds, he absolutely has the detailed weathering down to perfection. He could make these beauties shine..... I'm no expert on these older floats, I know a little about Edo floats, but these look really good....

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Hello Mihailo and welcome to this friendly and competent corner of the web. You started a very interesting project with the W.4, and I will follow your build closely, because I have a soft spot for seaplanes and flying boats, even better, if they are made of wood, metal and cloth.
The top of your floats, looks like mine with the circular openings, which need handles and the metal enforcements. I have rapidly looked at only two pics of a W.4 from Wikipedia and on both, the tail end of the floats is lowering, where yours have an even deck, but it's only a first impression.

I'm absolutely not an expert on WWI seaplanes, but have given my second WNW build, the Hansa Brandenburg W.12 some thoughts. I modified the floats, by adding dents into the sides, because pictures show, (E.G. WNW documentation) that they were dented, like the outer layer of tin has formed some dents, by the influence of the elements or other physical events.
I also used a multi layer painting technique, because in my case, the floats were covered with a black tar like paint and I wanted to have them appear worn and exposed to salt and algae residues.
 

This is the build log, if you are interested.

Das Kamel - Hansa Brandenburg W.12 - LSM Work In Progress - Large Scale Modeller

The finished W.12

Hansa Brandenburg W.12 Das Kamel, Sylt 1918 RFI - LSM Aircraft Finished Work - Large Scale Modeller

Cheers Rob

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6 hours ago, DocRob said:

Hello Mihailo and welcome to this friendly and competent corner of the web. You started a very interesting project with the W.4, and I will follow your build closely, because I have a soft spot for seaplanes and flying boats, even better, if they are made of wood, metal and cloth.
The top of your floats, looks like mine with the circular openings, which need handles and the metal enforcements. I have rapidly looked at only two pics of a W.4 from Wikipedia and on both, the tail end of the floats is lowering, where yours have an even deck, but it's only a first impression.

I'm absolutely not an expert on WWI seaplanes, but have given my second WNW build, the Hansa Brandenburg W.12 some thoughts. I modified the floats, by adding dents into the sides, because pictures show, (E.G. WNW documentation) that they were dented, like the outer layer of tin has formed some dents, by the influence of the elements or other physical events.
I also used a multi layer painting technique, because in my case, the floats were covered with a black tar like paint and I wanted to have them appear worn and exposed to salt and algae residues.
 

This is the build log, if you are interested.

Das Kamel - Hansa Brandenburg W.12 - LSM Work In Progress - Large Scale Modeller

The finished W.12

Hansa Brandenburg W.12 Das Kamel, Sylt 1918 RFI - LSM Aircraft Finished Work - Large Scale Modeller

Cheers Rob

Thanks Rob!

What do you mean by tail is lowering?

I got w12 few weeks ago! Finaly got one after almost a year of search...and was looking for w12 build logs and i actually bookmarked yours! Lol

Today i was working on top part, and i think it came out good?

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23 minutes ago, Mihailo1994 said:

What do you mean by tail is lowering?

Hi Mihailo, when I see your floats, it seems that the deck is flat lengthways Except in your very first picture), where the two pics in the German Wikipeda entry show a lowering deck for the W.4 floats to the aft side.

The W.12 is a great kit, it needs some modifications, specially around the engine, but it was a pure pleasure build.

Cheers Rob

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3 hours ago, DocRob said:

Hi Mihailo, when I see your floats, it seems that the deck is flat lengthways Except in your very first picture), where the two pics in the German Wikipeda entry show a lowering deck for the W.4 floats to the aft side.

The W.12 is a great kit, it needs some modifications, specially around the engine, but it was a pure pleasure build.

Cheers Rob

Sorry Rob! Did you mean like first photo attached bellow? Because as i understanded, thats early type/prototype of w.4, and later type had flat lenghtwise like on 2nd pic and like floats that i made :) correct me if i'm wrong!

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1 hour ago, Mihailo1994 said:

Sorry Rob! Did you mean like first photo attached bellow? Because as i understanded, thats early type/prototype of w.4, and later type had flat lenghtwise like on 2nd pic and like floats that i made :) correct me if i'm wrong!

No worries Mihailo, I was just describing, what I saw on the first pics, I had ever seen of the type, therefore my question. I'm no expert. Your floats look great and the deck details on the later pictures of your prints look perfect.

Cheers Rob

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23 minutes ago, Vandy1 VX-4 said:

Just found this thread will you be selling these Mahalo?  I’d like to purchase a set? !!!!

I have 2 Albatross W4 in 48th scale but my main scale is 32nd and 35th

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Hi! Ofcourse! I can scale them down for 1/48! Just in case let me know lenght of floats from the kit :)

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You’re going to need to make significant changes to the wings and tailplane… the cowling as well depending which production batch you’re modeling. You can’t just stick floats on a Roden Albatros and call it a W4 unfortunately

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1 hour ago, seiran01 said:

You’re going to need to make significant changes to the wings and tailplane… the cowling as well depending which production batch you’re modeling. You can’t just stick floats on a Roden Albatros and call it a W4 unfortunately

Yes i know, wider wings, wider tail :) so luckily i'm not making conversion myself hahaha this was made for a friend, and now have it for sale, if someone whats to do conversion :)

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