WNW Fe.2b "Early" WIP

[Guest DannyVM]

W.W.1 subjects keep's getting me. After my visit to the Brussels Army museum, i saw some very nice W.W.1 subjects which triggered some feelings in me.

 

This one was a real time favorite for sure : 

 

 

 

Ok, it's a Farman instead of a Fe.2b but the twin boomed design made some impressions to me.

 

So i decided to start the WNW Fe.2b "Early"

 

 

Aftermarket i'm gonna use are some HGW goodie's.

 

 

And some ground work

 

 

And this color scheme i will be using

 

 

Of course, a few years ago i made some wood color test's, and i will be using these to for this build.

 

 

Greetz

 

Danny

[DocRob]

Hi Danny,

great choice. I love that unique plane and bought one for myself and a lot of AM including Figures, Gaspatch MG's, Aviatic Doped Linen Decals for the wings and all the HGW stuff. My version will be the first design, the C6 one. If I had the time I would start right now together with you because it is a kit I really look forward to build, but this will be a big project and beside other builds I will start a Pfalz or Fokker DVII first, because they are much easier to rig.
Can't wait to see your FE.2b develop.

Cheers Rob 

[Guest DannyVM]

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Hi Danny,

great choice. I love that unique plane and bought one for myself and a lot of AM including Figures, Gaspatch MG's, Aviatic Doped Linen Decals for the wings and all the HGW stuff. My version will be the first design, the C6 one. If I had the time I would start right now together with you because it is a kit I really look forward to build, but this will be a big project and beside other builds I will start a Pfalz or Fokker DVII first, because they are much easier to rig.
Can't wait to see your FE.2b develop.

Cheers Rob 

Thank's Rob,

 

it's indeed a unique airplane, which i think will look very considerable once it stand in a display case.

I still need to figure out which figures to buy, but for that i have plenty of time.

First thing's first, so you guy's can expect an update soon.

 

Greetz

 

Danny

[GusMac]

Good luck with this Danny, I'm sure you will do it justice. Looks like a rigging nightmare to me but that's just my phobia!

[DocRob]

Hi Danny, I got these two fellows from Wings Cockpit Figures. You can't get more drama into a WW1 cockpit. They are sculpted very well without bubbles or other distortions in the resin.

Cheers Rob

[Guest DannyVM]

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Good luck with this Danny, I'm sure you will do it justice. Looks like a rigging nightmare to me but that's just my phobia!

Thank's mate. The rigging is indeed very obvious on this particular airplane. At the moment i'm into meditation to get the job done

 

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Hi Danny, I got these two fellows from Wings Cockpit Figures. You can't get more drama into a WW1 cockpit. They are sculpted very well without bubbles or other distortions in the resin.

Cheers Rob

Thank's Rob for the idea. Indeed, the action is very realistic in this setting.

 

Greetz

 

Danny

[Guest DannyVM]

Question for the specialists  

 

As i am gonna build Fe.2b 'Baroda 15' the instructions mentioned for the pilot's locker that the fuel lines needs to be removed.

 

 

I assume the reason for this is the lack of the 18 gallon petrol tank where the pilot sit's on??

 

But, when i look to the photo's of The Vintage Aviator Fe.2b which also has the pilot's locker, the fuel lines are still in place??

 

Pilot's locker

 

 

And the fuel lines

 

 

I'm a little bit confused about this.  Can anybody tell me why, or why their is a difference between these two cockpit configurations??

 

Greetz

 

Danny

[GusMac]

Those photos tell you all you need to know about the power of those engines. I've seen drinking straws bigger than those fuel lines! 

[DocRob]

Hi Danny, maybe there is a mistake. I'm not an expert, so I only try to detect through visual evidence .

In the instructions is mentioned that version B,C,D (your Baroda) should get the fuel lines chopped of. When I study the photos of the rebuild Zanzibar No. 1 on page 8 of the instructions you can clearly see the fuel lines on the lower right photo. That is Version C where the fuel lines should have been removed as well. On page 7 there is a photo of the same plane showing the pilot seat with what seems to be the pilot's locker.
To me it makes sense that the pilot is able to operate the fuel flow directly in front of him, no matter where the tank is.

In the Windsock production "The FE2B Flies Again" there is the same picture as in the instructions (Page 7, first row, middle) and the corresponding text says: "Every item down to the last nut is a true representation of the original".

So as a verdict I think at least the Zanzibar No. 1 is fitted with fuel lines, where the manual is saying "scratch that stuff away". I have no information about your Baroda and am happy with my choice of the "C6", because I was wondering about the fuel lines like you as I scanned the manual.

Cheers Rob 

[DocRob]

By the way, did you see the update for your Baroda on the Wingnut Wings hints and tips page?

http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/productdetail?productid=3044&cat=6

On the Archive Photos side, there are some really interesting shots. There is one picture (top row, number seven) of the Baroda cockpit and you can guess, that there are fuel lines.

http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/productdetail?productid=3044&cat=1

[Guest DannyVM]

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Hi Danny, maybe there is a mistake. I'm not an expert, so I only try to detect through visual evidence .

In the instructions is mentioned that version B,C,D (your Baroda) should get the fuel lines chopped of. When I study the photos of the rebuild Zanzibar No. 1 on page 8 of the instructions you can clearly see the fuel lines on the lower right photo. That is Version C where the fuel lines should have been removed as well. On page 7 there is a photo of the same plane showing the pilot seat with what seems to be the pilot's locker.
To me it makes sense that the pilot is able to operate the fuel flow directly in front of him, no matter where the tank is.

In the Windsock production "The FE2B Flies Again" there is the same picture as in the instructions (Page 7, first row, middle) and the corresponding text says: "Every item down to the last nut is a true representation of the original".

So as a verdict I think at least the Zanzibar No. 1 is fitted with fuel lines, where the manual is saying "scratch that stuff away". I have no information about your Baroda and am happy with my choice of the "C6", because I was wondering about the fuel lines like you as I scanned the manual.

Cheers Rob 

Thank's for your feedback Rob. Indeed that's my thought also, if i follow the instructions, thing's just doesn't make any sense. So i decided not to remove the fuel lines and let them stay where they are. 

 

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By the way, did you see the update for your Baroda on the Wingnut Wings hints and tips page?

http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/productdetail?productid=3044&cat=6

On the Archive Photos side, there are some really interesting shots. There is one picture (top row, number seven) of the Baroda cockpit and you can guess, that there are fuel lines.

http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/productdetail?productid=3044&cat=1

Yes i did, but to late, i already drilled the two holes in the pilot's floor board Well no harm done, some putty will solve the case.

 

Indeed, i studied those photo's very well, and it came also to my attention, that's why i started to ask myself questions about those fuel lines.

 

Still, i appreciate you feedback Rob, thank's mate

 

Greetz

 

Danny

[Guest DannyVM]

Hi folk's,

 

time to get started on this wooden wonder. Today i added two new colors to my woodgrain color chart. 

 

Those are the two at the right side.

 

 

Reason for this : i wasn't happy with the colors i had, so i made two new ones based on a yellow base coat. For the base coat i used Tamiya XF-3 and regarding the oil colors i used Raw Umber and Burnt Umber.

 

 

First thing to do, a black primer coat to the part's.

 

 

Second, the part's that needed the woodgrain color where first painted in XF-3 Yellow.

 

 

The gondola insides where all painted in their colors. Paint's used are : XF-3 Yellow, X-32 Titanium Silver and Mr. Paint clear doped linnen.

 

 

Also, fuel tank, pilot's seat and some details where painted with X-32 Titanium Silver.

 

 

For the woodgrain i used the same technique as i did with my two previous WNW build's. I choosed the XF-3 + Burnt Umber combination.

 

 

With this technique there are many color variations that can be achieved, just by the use of more or less clean brushes.

 

Here you can see two different woodgrain textures with the same paint.

 

 

Gondola 

 

 

 

 

And some other part's

 

 

Greetz

 

Danny

[GusMac]

The variety in the woodgrain effects looks great Danny.

[Guest DannyVM]

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The variety in the woodgrain effects looks great Danny.

Thank's mate for the nice comment.

 

Greetz

 

Danny

[coolboxx]

Lovely start, just wow! On that wood.. 

[JeroenPeters]

That woodwork.... sweet!

 

The brussels army museum is (despite it's somewhat deplorable state) still one of my favourites..

[DocRob]

Nice woodwork Danny, very convincing. I thought about the HGW-Wood-Decals on mine, but as I see your work, I am not that sure anymore.

Cheers Rob 

[Guest DannyVM]

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Lovely start, just wow! On that wood.. 

Thank's mate, 

 

Greetz

 

Danny

 

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That woodwork.... sweet!

 

The brussels army museum is (despite it's somewhat deplorable state) still one of my favourites..

Thank's Jeroen.

 

Indeed, they have some very unique collections, which are in their own way telling a story regarding the Belgian Aviation history. Aviodrome in lelystad telling the same story for the Dutch aviation history but in a much more better museum. The lack of funds and the shortage of volanteers, made that the Brussels museum is in a deplorable state.

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Nice woodwork Danny, very convincing. I thought about the HGW-Wood-Decals on mine, but as I see your work, I am not that sure anymore.

Cheers Rob 

Thank's Rob for the encouraging words mate.

 

I got the HGW decals to, but they are very fragile. At the last moment i decided not to use them because of the oil paint technique that i could use, from which i'm sure that the end result was nice.

 

Now i'm planning to do a video, regarding this oil paint technique, but as i'm not really familiar to making video's i need to do some research, so stay tuned, it will be soon to see over here.

 

Greetz

 

Danny

[Guest DannyVM]

Hi guy's, time to show you some more WIP photo's.

 

The oil paint is completely dried, so time to paint some details and put the cockpit together.

 

First thing to do, glue the cockpit floor to the ammunition locker.

 

Here you see the difference of color in the wood grain pattern.

 

 

I decided to keep the fuel lines, which where running along the bulkhead under the IP. I painted the fuel lines and other details with Vallejo and Tamiya acrylics.

 

 

Radiator, pilot's seat and pilot's locker where also glued.

 

 

 

Rudder pedals, painted and glued to the cockpit floor.

 

 

Instrument panel, details painted and added some decals.

 

 

Finally, gunner section glued to the pilot's cockpit section.

 

 

 

 

Greetz

 

Danny

[JeroenPeters]

I just LOVE that instrument panel!!!

[Guest DannyVM]

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I just LOVE that instrument panel!!!

Thank's Jeroen for the nice comment.

 

Greetz

 

Danny

[DocRob]

That interior is high up on the "WOW-Meter". Rarely did plastic so much look like Wood. I like the appearance of the different Panels, whichmakes it even more realistic.
The Dashboard is a stunner.

On my build I will remove the fuel lines and use copper wire as a Substitute ,because I never liked the way brushed copper Color Looks like. Especially brass and copper seem to have larger pigments in the Colors and will not look right to scale. Maybe I will give the True Metal Wax from AK Interactive a try, if I'm to lazy to rebuild the fuel lines.  

Cheers Rob

[RichO]

Very nice work!

[Guest DannyVM]

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That interior is high up on the "WOW-Meter". Rarely did plastic so much look like Wood. I like the appearance of the different Panels, whichmakes it even more realistic.
The Dashboard is a stunner.

On my build I will remove the fuel lines and use copper wire as a Substitute ,because I never liked the way brushed copper Color Looks like. Especially brass and copper seem to have larger pigments in the Colors and will not look right to scale. Maybe I will give the True Metal Wax from AK Interactive a try, if I'm to lazy to rebuild the fuel lines.  

Cheers Rob

Thank's Rob for the highly appreciated comment mate.

 

About the fuel lines, that crossed my mind for a minute also to remove them and make new ones from copper wire but at the end i decided to use the ones molded on the plastic.

Indeed your right about the metallic colors. Most of them are to heavy in scale. For this i used Tamiya Copper, which is also to heavy. Next time i rather will use Vallejo metallic s which are much better to brush and gives a better effect.

 

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Very nice work!

Thank's RichO.

 

Greetz

 

Danny

[Guest DannyVM]

I did some more work on the Fee's cockpit section today.

 

I enclosed the observers and pilot's cockpit into the two wooden frame halves. Also the frontal iron framework was added to the observers section. Fuel tank and control column also.

 

 

 

 

Next step, adding the instrument panel.

 

 

 

Radiator support bars glued. Engine mount added to the wooden frame work.

 

 

 

Rudder pedal control cables and support rigging finished.

 

 

 

And a quick dry-fit into the two fuselage half's.

 

 

 

Greetz

 

Danny