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Please help me with feedback on GasPatch turnbuckles.  I’m sure there’s been plenty of discussion.  To my chargrin I have missed any posts on this topic. 
 
I’m planning to plunge into my WNW stash in near future.  
 
I’ve studied GP offerings and I’m kinda clear on turnbuckle selection.  To save me time and angst researching walk around images I’m asking for some feedback. 
 
My questions are for the following a/c: 
  • D7 
  • Alb 
  • Dh9 
  • Snipe
 
I’m aware the turnbuckles on the Camel are concealed.  Does the same go for it’s cousin the Snipe?  I see specific Alb turnbuckles. Another question is scale. Are 1:48 turnbuckles better for 1:32 a/c? 
 
Are the guns worth considering?
 
I’m certainly open to scratch building turnbuckles with good coaching or links where to find. 
 
Thanks for your assist.
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Hi Rick,

I will not comment the right selection of the GP Turnbuckles, as I'm no expert and I think others more into the subject will answer. 

Where I can be of help is your question considering the quality of the GP guns. For some of my WNW Kits i chose the GP guns and I went the extra mile to make a little photo comparison for the D VII and the Snipe.

Spandau 08/15 GP-No. 32060 vs. WNW for the Fokker

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Vickers British HylandType B  GP-No. 32062 vs. WNW for my Early Snipe

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For me there is a clear advantage to the GP guns, especially the 08/15 with that perforated cooling parts. For my Brandenburg W.12 I will use ABER Brass 08/15 cooling jackets and barrels combined with the WNW plastic. The good thing on brass is that you can use burnishing fluid to blacken it to a very convincing look, much better than airbrushed.

So is it worth the extra money, you have to decide for yourself, but given the very visible appearance of the weapons on a WW1 plane I will milk my budget.

Cheers Rob

 

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1 hour ago, DocRob said:

Hi Rick,

I will not comment the right selection of the GP Turnbuckles, as I'm no expert and I think others more into the subject will answer. 

Where I can be of help is your question considering the quality of the GP guns. For some of my WNW Kits i chose the GP guns and I went the extra mile to make a little photo comparison for the D VII and the Snipe.

Spandau 08/15 GP-No. 32060 vs. WNW for the Fokker

P1130736.thumb.JPG.9826ab97bd17a8430ad030f67fd24c90.JPG

 

Vickers British HylandType B  GP-No. 32062 vs. WNW for my Early Snipe

P1130738.thumb.JPG.d8e09f7729cf3de21663100d4463186c.JPG

For me there is a clear advantage to the GP guns, especially the 08/15 with that perforated cooling parts. For my Brandenburg W.12 I will use ABER Brass 08/15 cooling jackets and barrels combined with the WNW plastic. The good thing on brass is that you can use burnishing fluid to blacken it to a very convincing look, much better than airbrushed.

So is it worth the extra money, you have to decide for yourself, but given the very visible appearance of the weapons on a WW1 plane I will milk my budget.

Cheers Rob

 

Thanks Rob!

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Hi Rick!

I never used GP turnbuckles. 

For the German ones, I use Albion Alloys tubes and eyebolt from Bob Buckles.  

The GP turnbuckles look fantastic indeed and I will try them in my next Eindecker.

Some say that the ones to use in 1:32 WnW, are those in 1:48. 

You have to see pictures to see which one are the right ones for your build.

For British, I never used any turnbuckle and I really don´t know how some of them can be put into the model

 

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I’ll give my .02 on turnbuckles as well. 

I love Bob’s Buckles. And I love Gaspatch, and RB turnbuckles.   But with the possible exception of the RB product, they’re all way over scale. 

On a WW1 aircraft being viewed from 30 ft away, turnbuckles are all but invisible, and I’m into realism, so after tryingBob’s and Gaspatch, I settled on this:

Single engine aircraft I use 1/48 scale Gaspatch turnbuckles. They look about right.  And, I also use Bob’s Buckles eyelets only and after attaching the line, use thick CA to build up the line end a bit, then paint the built up area to represent a turnbuckle. 

Bombers such as the Felixstowe I use 1/32 Scale Gaspatch.  They fit the size well enough. 

But no matter what you do, in my mind, NOTHING ruins the look of a beautiful model more than out of line or bent turnbuckles. If you use Gaspatch, be extremely careful to drill the holes in the wings perfectly lined up with the angle of the line that’ll be attached.  If they’re out of line or obviously bent into line, it is incredibly distracting. To me, like a big blob of glue on a wing. 

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Gpatch is all good to me.

Great stuff and not stingy either.

I used the p/e ones on my Biff to good effect. They were purchased to use with the unusable p/e flying wire.

But I'm using a mix of 1/48 and 1/32 Gpatch on my Gotha.

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 And , yes your bush league if the line isn't continued straight through the turnbuckle.

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