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Hey Nige 

  I have been thinking, is it still possible for you to do a video or post pictures of your improvements with some dimensions. You know how us engineering types are can't do anything without a proper set of plans (blueprints). Especially the instrument panel support, the floor for the pilot seat and how much to add to the navigators table, etc. I know I would greatly appreciate it, and I bet many others would too.

Ron G 

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1 hour ago, CrankyCrafstman said:

Hey Nige 

  I have been thinking, is it still possible for you to do a video or post pictures of your improvements with some dimensions. You know how us engineering types are can't do anything without a proper set of plans (blueprints). Especially the instrument panel support, the floor for the pilot seat and how much to add to the navigators table, etc. I know I would greatly appreciate it, and I bet many others would too.

Ron G 

I'm afraid not Ron.

There are so many people out there who will say I'm wrong, theyll mess their kit up and say I caused them to make the error and blame me for trashing their model.

I spend hours and hours looking at pictures and look for, OK, "that" panel meets the fuselage at "that" rib, then "that" rib is 4th back from the  edge of the IP so therefore it's out by "this" much.

I dont have drawings, just Google. My dimensions could well be wrong, but I think they're a lot closer than stock.

If you go back to the start of my build log I tell you how much it's all out for the seat.

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Has anyone noticed the engineers seat in the kit? It looks nothing like the original B,1 seat but does pretty much look like the seat in Just Jane?

Does anyone know whats going on here.. is the seat right or wrong in the kit??

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3 hours ago, FME erk said:

Nige

For those of us that have not got or set eyes on this particular kit, can you at least offer up a photo so we can see what the issue might be ??

many thanks

Sorry mate.. there I go again, assuming everyone would know what I'm talking about...

(All pics used are for reference only. No copyright infringement intended)

I'll start by showing you the kit parts, which appear to depict this..

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Note ejector pin marks on face of backrest!!

Now, a BI/III would have had a seat like this.. surely?

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The backrest was simply a strap which was attached between the pilots seat and starboard inner fuselage wall...

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And would look like this when stowed

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So guys, it looks like we need to do even MORE scratchbuilding...

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I think I’ll park this right here. A few Mk.X interior diagrams along with some changes for the various postwar mission specific birds the RCAF used.  Not sure if y’all have seen these yet.

By gum I think we’re slowly developing a pretty decent Lancaster database here...

 

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On 3/23/2019 at 9:22 AM, NigelR32 said:

Has anyone noticed the engineers seat in the kit? It looks nothing like the original B,1 seat but does pretty much look like the seat in Just Jane?

Does anyone know whats going on here.. is the seat right or wrong in the kit??

Are we back to the Mk.X bugaboo again?  I’ve definitely seen that setup in pics before. RCAF I’d assume, but it’s been a few years.

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21 hours ago, CrankyCrafstman said:

Hey Nige 

  I watched your YouTube videos on how to make the Airscale IP set. One question how long should the toggle switches be sticking out from the surface of the panels, both sizes the.15mm & .33mm ones?

Ron G 

That's one for you to judge Ron. Mine are too long as they are not fully trimmed down. Look at some pics and cut them so they "look right" to your eye.

I would also add, I used .15 and .33 because it's what I had, these sizes arent set in stone.

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3 hours ago, CrankyCrafstman said:

Hey Nige 

  Can you give us a list of the best Lancaster books to get, for the pictures and information to use for creating our models.

Thanks Ron G 

In a word, No. I have one book, mentioned before and Google. 

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On 1/7/2019 at 6:21 PM, NigelR32 said:

Here is a nice image borrowed from Google, of the real thing.. for information only..

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Here are the kit flaps... with missing holes as pointed out by FME erk..

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I guess this will make people want Eduard to step in even more?? Failing that, make some replacement strips and carve the kit plastic away. Failing that, build the model flaps up? Not sure if that would be accurate though?

The Eduard flap set for this kit is £75.00!!

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On 3/23/2019 at 2:22 PM, NigelR32 said:

Has anyone noticed the engineers seat in the kit? It looks nothing like the original B,1 seat but does pretty much look like the seat in Just Jane?

Does anyone know whats going on here.. is the seat right or wrong in the kit??

It’s definitely wrong for a Mk1/lll, Nigel. It should be similar to the one in the Tamiya kit, which of course has its own shortcomings!

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On 1/30/2019 at 7:32 PM, npb748r said:

Nige, you must have a camera focused on me as I'm just about to fit mine !! Thanks for the tip

Nigel, will that also apply to the Eduard IP? I bought that one as the Airscale one doesn’t have any levers with it.

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