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1 hour ago, Clunkmeister said:

It’s a competition rifle. Not much good for much else but ringing the dinner bell from a mile away. 

The bullets are shaped go fly straight, not tumble, and to stay supersonic for a very long distance. 

It would be absolutely useless as a weapon of war. But to allow one to hit very small targets from a very long distance away, it does an absolutely perfect job. 

What round does it use?  Still...  sounds a lot more deadly than a pillow-fight.

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3 hours ago, GazzaS said:

What round does it use?  Still...  sounds a lot more deadly than a pillow-fight.

Started as a 6.5mm Creedmoor, then I opened up the chamber to 6.5mm PRC. That’s Precision rifle cartridge. Basically a 6.5 Creedmoor Magnum.

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4 hours ago, krow113 said:

...so basically an assassination weapon.

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No, because it uses very long, aerodynamic slippery boattail bullets. And the caliber is too small. Wouldn’t have enough kinetic energy to knock something down at that distance.  No ridges or slices in the bullet itself to give it drag. The bullet’s actually shaped like the Stiletto research aircraft.  Not exactly a lethal shape.    A typical 5.56 in an M4, M16, or AR15 is done by 800 yards. Even a 308 or 7.62 NATO is done by 1000 yards. This one’s still flying straight. If you got shot by one, as long as it didn’t hit anything hard, it would just poke a small, clean hole through you. Like getting poked by an awl. No tearing, no trauma, nothing. The bullets we use aren’t designed for anything but competition. Hunting with them would be pretty darn cruel. 

Plus, this rifle weighs about 26 lbs. it’s heavy to be steady and absorb recoil.  Think Olympic competition rifle in a larger caliber. 

As for the 6.5mm Creedmoor and PRC. The Creed was developed by Hornaday in 2008 as a specific long range competition round. It worked very well. Then, in 2012, they lengthened the case and gave us the 6.5 PRC for a bit more oomph waaay out there. 

It’s a fascinating sport, but crazy boring to watch. As intense as sporting clays and trap shooting, but more cerebral. Mathematical calculations in your head are required before every shot.   You have a spotter with a spotter scope to call hits and misses only. No corrections. That’s up to the shooter to figure out. You have to hit a 12 inch square steel plate at distances between 300 yards and a mile away.  You can’t even see the thing past 800 yards without a scope. Past 800 yards you start thinking about not only wind drift and bullet drop, but gyroscopic effect of the bullet’s spin, the earth’s rotation, mirages, differing weather patterns between here and there, it’s freaky. At those distances, the bullet is in flight for up to 3 seconds or so. The rifle barrel is 28” long and absolutely free floating to avoid pressure spots for harmonics. The muzzle uses a brake to dissipate gasses away from the tail of the bullet as it exits the barrel. The action is the old style Mauser or Enfield style manual bolt. No self loaders to add to mass moving around.  Like I said, good for absolutely nothing but target shooting. I wouldn’t want to carry it around all day. 

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2 hours ago, Clunkmeister said:

No, because it uses very long, aerodynamic slippery boattail bullets. And the caliber is too small. Wouldn’t have enough kinetic energy to knock something down at that distance.  No ridges or slices in the bullet itself to give it drag. The bullet’s actually shaped like the Stiletto research aircraft.  Not exactly a lethal shape.    A typical 5.56 in an M4, M16, or AR15 is done by 800 yards. Even a 308 or 7.62 NATO is done by 1000 yards. This one’s still flying straight. If you got shot by one, as long as it didn’t hit anything hard, it would just poke a small, clean hole through you. Like getting poked by an awl. No tearing, no trauma, nothing. The bullets we use aren’t designed for anything but competition. Hunting with them would be pretty darn cruel. 

Plus, this rifle weighs about 26 lbs. it’s heavy to be steady and absorb recoil.  Think Olympic competition rifle in a larger caliber. 

As for the 6.5mm Creedmoor and PRC. The Creed was developed by Hornaday in 2008 as a specific long range competition round. It worked very well. Then, in 2012, they lengthened the case and gave us the 6.5 PRC for a bit more oomph waaay out there. 

It’s a fascinating sport, but crazy boring to watch. As intense as sporting clays and trap shooting, but more cerebral. Mathematical calculations in your head are required before every shot.   You have a spotter with a spotter scope to call hits and misses only. No corrections. That’s up to the shooter to figure out. You have to hit a 12 inch square steel plate at distances between 300 yards and a mile away.  You can’t even see the thing past 800 yards without a scope. Past 800 yards you start thinking about not only wind drift and bullet drop, but gyroscopic effect of the bullet’s spin, the earth’s rotation, mirages, differing weather patterns between here and there, it’s freaky. At those distances, the bullet is in flight for up to 3 seconds or so. The rifle barrel is 28” long and absolutely free floating to avoid pressure spots for harmonics. The muzzle uses a brake to dissipate gasses away from the tail of the bullet as it exits the barrel. The action is the old style Mauser or Enfield style manual bolt. No self loaders to add to mass moving around.  Like I said, good for absolutely nothing but target shooting. I wouldn’t want to carry it around all day. 

Thank you for the detailed description, Ern.  I've never delved into competition shooting.

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Bit more work completed on the Airfix Typhoon, so basically ready for primer.

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First Airfix kit I've built in 30 years and I've mixed feelings. The surface detail is nice but the fit is very average if you want to close everything up. Lots of filler and Evergreen card required to sort things out.

People give Trumpeter pelters for their shape issues, etc but, at least in my experience, they build kits that go together well.

The plastic is also very soft and soapy which makes rescribing details a bit haphazard. Anyway, we'll see how it looks after primer.

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6 hours ago, GusMac said:

Bit more work completed on the Airfix Typhoon, so basically ready for primer.

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First Airfix kit I've built in 30 years and I've mixed feelings. The surface detail is nice but the fit is very average if you want to close everything up. Lots of filler and Evergreen card required to sort things out.

People give Trumpeter pelters for their shape issues, etc but, at least in my experience, they build kits that go together well.

The plastic is also very soft and soapy which makes rescribing details a bit haphazard. Anyway, we'll see how it looks after primer.

That looks great so far. I have them both and thought I’d do the bubbletop wide open, and the car door all closed up.  

I’ve seen several finished builds in person and they all look super impressive in person. 

After saying all that, now I’m staring at my roughed in MDC kit and thinking I could finish that one in a weekend....

Im looking forward to seeing this done!

Ernie

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Real guns, pfft. Have not posted in a bit as to what I'm working on . I have the SBD just about done. Some of the decals were like Christmas peanut brittle so I have to buy a new sheet. So I'm a bit perplexed as I don't like to embark on a build that someone else is doing at the time, however I have had this ready to start for a couple months so what the heck. So I'm starting an F-105D to be finished as s Memphis Belle II to go with my planned HK B-17F Memphis Belle. Shoot not only is Tony working on a Thud, but Jerry just finished the same exact bird. Oh well, I'll just have figure something out. Base color in cockpit, dry brushed. More to come.

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2 hours ago, smitty44 said:

Real guns, pfft. Have not posted in a bit as to what I'm working on . I have the SBD just about done. Some of the decals were like Christmas peanut brittle so I have to buy a new sheet. So I'm a bit perplexed as I don't like to embark on a build that someone else is doing at the time, however I have had this ready to start for a couple months so what the heck. So I'm starting an F-105D to be finished as s Memphis Belle II to go with my planned HK B-17F Memphis Belle. Shoot not only is Tony working on a Thud, but Jerry just finished the same exact bird. Oh well, I'll just have figure something out. Base color in cockpit, dry brushed. More to come.

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Smitty, that's looking great!  Everybody LOVES a Thud.  I'm so blown away by this!

Smitty, as you and Tony both know, I have a two seater all teed up to be built as either an F or a G, I'm just not sure which version yet.   I somehow ended up with both Super Sets from Gary, along with all the Wild Weasel armament he sells, but I had my heart set on a NMF bird and the G only flew in standard SEA camo.

I still need an Aires cockpit yet and probably a better burner can, but other than that I could be full steam ahead as well. 

I'm really looking forward to seeing the original Belle and the Belle ll come to life here.

Rock On, Man!!

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12 minutes ago, TJTX said:

It's funny, I decided to start the Thud because you never seem to see them built.   Go figure!

Tony, I've always said that you never see a GOOD build on a Thud at the local shows.  They all seem to look like they were done by a 5 year old and painted with a toothbrush.  

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Thought about my next project a little, and having done so I have come up with a diabolical plan. Having been such a crazy year, most depressing at times, I felt a go big or go home moment was at hand to finish it off. Why not Memphis Belle II and III?

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I may let Smitty have the Thud light right now, I've got another one that's been itching me too, and I'll roll right into my thud after this other build.  It is winter time after all and you need a good Zipper on your coat...

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27 minutes ago, Clunkmeister said:

Tony, I've always said that you never see a GOOD build on a Thud at the local shows.  They all seem to look like they were done by a 5 year old and painted with a toothbrush.  

So I'm not supposed to paint with my Oral-B??  Guess that's why my builds suck and my breath stinks...

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3 minutes ago, TJTX said:

I may let Smitty have the Thud light right now, I've got another one that's been itching me too, and I'll roll right into my thud after this other build.  It is winter time after all and you need a good Zipper on your coat...

Please keep on rolling with the Thud Tony. I was just setting up rolling out that other beast.

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