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WNW Hannover Cl.II - have any actually been built?


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I ask because I am damned if i can find any either on here, LSP or Britmodeller...

 

I want to see how people handle the fuzzy / mottle type finish over the fuselage lozenge that is required

 

no decals are supplied for this in the kit, and I have done a quick trawl and cannot find any aftermarket either

 

Nick (just tentatively dipping his WNW toe in! :) )

 

 

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Hey Jim

Saw that, but they don't do the fuselage mottle / lozenge as far as I could make out

Or did I get that wrong?

Cheers!

Nick

The Aviattic will be doing the centre section as well as wing surface loz cookie cuts but the fuselage shapes (not the wing centre section) were actually pretty indistinct in many cases - some look as if they were roughly sprayed on before being over-sprayed with the dark blue (or dark green,,,,). If you have even a slight facility with an airbrush it would be quite a simple matter to mix up some approximate colours and apply them and then glaze the lot with a thinned blue/green. A much better solution to ultra sharp colour contrasts with decals and tailopring those around the curves of the Hannover's fuselage would be a near impossibility, I'd think. You could always do the Roland-built trainer option or even the Polish one on our decal sheet if you wanted to avoid the issue...

 

Here's some more for you to browse:

 

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234947070-wingnut-wings-hannover-clii-build-for-telford/page-4?hl=hannover#

 

http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=1417.0

 

http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=1318.0

 

Hope that helps,

 

Rowan

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The Aviattic will be doing the centre section as well as wing surface loz cookie cuts but the fuselage shapes (not the wing centre section) were actually pretty indistinct in many cases - some look as if they were roughly sprayed on before being over-sprayed with the dark blue (or dark green,,,,). If you have even a slight facility with an airbrush it would be quite a simple matter to mix up some approximate colours and apply them and then glaze the lot with a thinned blue/green. A much better solution to ultra sharp colour contrasts with decals and tailopring those around the curves of the Hannover's fuselage would be a near impossibility, I'd think. You could always do the Roland-built trainer option or even the Polish one on our decal sheet if you wanted to avoid the issue...

 

Here's some more for you to browse:

 

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234947070-wingnut-wings-hannover-clii-build-for-telford/page-4?hl=hannover#

 

http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=1417.0

 

http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=1318.0

 

Hope that helps,

 

Rowan

 

And our review is here too: http://forum.largescalemodeller.com/topic/1085-132-hannover-clii-decals/

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Thanks for the BritMod link - I must have missed that

The build is quite eye catching but the (impressive) masking and DIY lozenge complete with overspray doesn't look too much like the WNW profile / pictures they show

 

I presume you are suggesting spraying small patches of each lozenge colour then overspray?

That would seem to achieve the desired effect...

 

I posted because although that seems the logical solution, I haven't actually seen anyone do this.

indeed I just haven't seen too many of these period (and yet there is always a bidding frenzy on eBay it seems for the Hannover?)

 

The last two links required a registration / membership btw

 

Thanks

 

Nick

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Thanks for the BritMod link - I must have missed that

The build is quite eye catching but the (impressive) masking and DIY lozenge complete with overspray doesn't look too much like the WNW profile / pictures they show

 

I presume you are suggesting spraying small patches of each lozenge colour then overspray?

That would seem to achieve the desired effect...

 

I posted because although that seems the logical solution, I haven't actually seen anyone do this.

indeed I just haven't seen too many of these period (and yet there is always a bidding frenzy on eBay it seems for the Hannover?)

 

The last two links required a registration / membership btw

 

Thanks

 

Nick

Jon Kunac-Tabinor's Hannover actually looks just the ticket in my view - particularly 'in the flesh' but you are welcome to your opinion, of course.

 

The story behind the Hannover fuselage camouflage is probably lost now, if it was ever documented. I have a scenario (based on circumstantial evidence and probability/possibility only - so for goodness sake don't take this as gospel!) which goes like this:

 

Each factory in Germany had resident inspector(s) put in place by Idflieg (the office of the inspector of "flying troops") and part of their role was to ensure that various army strictures were followed, including the question of camouflage. The first Cl IIs were sent to the front with the fuselages painted with a variety of colours intended to mimic the dyes used in the printed camouflage fabric. Feed-back from the frontline units to Idflieg suggested that the camouflage idea wasn't working as the colour contrasts were too great at the low altitudes at which the majority of Schlaghtstaffeln were working and could the manufacturer tone the effect down in some way?

 

The easiest way to cut down on the contrast was an over-spray of some dark colour to 'blend things in' and this apparently satisfied the operational units. So, Instead of reassessing the camouflage issue and doing something more logical and less labour intensive and therefore costly in time, the factory simply continued the practice of painting the patches and then overspraying because it apparently worked and they were following the inspector's wishes...... I suspect that the painters stopped being too careful with the painted colour demarcations over time and resorted to the afore-mentioned rough spraying of the various patches of colour before the final coat. Anyway, for what little it's worth, that's my interpretation and it allows for a myriad of different model finishes and seems to fit with what can be discerned from the published photographic record. It could be total balls, of course.....

 

I know that you need to join the site to see those last two links, but it is easy to do and is a great resource for the modeller of WWI subjects - thoroughly recommended.

 

Thanks for posting the review link, James. Modesty forbids etc.

 

Rowan

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yes it is a matter of interpretation, but to help a more side by side comparison, here is the fuselage from the Britmod build

 

P1050355_zpsbfdb3c11.jpg

 

as i said, it looks cool, but is way sharper than the heavy mottle finish that WNW profile depicts

 

my take is that their profile is closer to the pictures in their instruction booklet than the model above, but then again he chap above isn't making 'my' aircraft...

 

i guess once I am brave enough for turnbuckle torture  :help: then i will have a spray and see how it looks?

 

thanks again for your input

 

cheers

 

Nick

 

PS as an aisde, I just followed some US ebay auctions and WNW go for 'normal' prices over there - we really are in our own little price bubble  :2c:  :2c:  :2c:

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