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    Kotare Spit

    in LSM 1/35 and Larger Work In Progress

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    8 hours ago, sharkcoach said:

    Anyone know if any Mk IIs served in colors other than Commonwealth?

    I'm pretty sure that the Mk.II served with the RAF exclusively, with other nationalities making up squadrons within the RAF, the Mk.V was the one that served with other air arms in any numbers as far as I know.

    Cheers

    Dennis

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    My airfix 1/24 spitfire!

    in LSM 1/35 and Larger Work In Progress

    Posted

    10 hours ago, HubertB said:

    Well, as I mentioned in my first post where I mentioned « bakelite », I am far from an expert on Spitfires.

    So, I was wrong about Bakelite, and thanks for correcting me, Dennis. I will go to bed a bit less stupid and more knowledgeable tonight.

    Hubert

    Thank you for that I have always thought that we should learn something new every day, I still do that, every day I read through modelling websites and I always find something to copy and stash away for future use.

    Cheers

    Dennis

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    My airfix 1/24 spitfire!

    in LSM 1/35 and Larger Work In Progress

    Posted

    More information on the plastic seats, from Edgar and the full thread is here.

    https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/41616-a-question-regarding-early-spitfire-seats/

    The plastic (not Tufnol*, or Bakelite**, whatever the "experts" tell you) seat was planned for, in 1938, initially for Castle Bromwich, exclusively, but there were huge problems with its (lack of) inherent strength, and it wasn't passed for use until May, 1940. Although the seat could be changed over (relatively, it's a multi-handed job) easily, it's a bit unlikely in your example.

    Edgar

    * Tufnol, as a company, existed before the war, in Glasgow, but the seat was manufactured by Aeroplastics Ltd. (also in Glasgow.) Tufnol make a resin/paper material now, and Aeroplastics no longer exist, but I've been unable to find out if Tufnol took them over.

    ** Bakelite is a moulded material, of a granular type of material, which needs precise temperature control and tremendous pressure for moulding. A friend made instrument cases from Bakelite, around 30 years ago, and says that the size of the seat would have made consistency of the temperature impossible, together with the huge increase needed in the pressure.

    And a bit more technical from Stephen MG in the same thread.

    Mish - not actually 'plastic' as we know it now but an 'engineering plastic' called SRBP (Synthetic Resin Bonded Paper). It's basically layers of paper impregnated with resin to produce a 'plastic' type material. This method of manufacture means that it can be made in a mould - seat shaped for example! It is characteristically a light red-brown colour - hence the colour often seen in old aircraft seats. SRBP is the generic name for it, trade names are Paxoline, Lamitex etc..

    SRBF (Synthetic Resin Bonded Fabric) is a similar material which used fabric instead of paper in it's structure.

    The same basic style of seat and SRBP material was used in countless aircraft - Spitfire, Hurricane, Hornet, Vampire for example. They even appeared in some Canberras. SRBF was extensively used in making things like instrument panels and heel plates on cockpit floors etc. - good examples of both can be seen in the Mosquito, and most commonly as insulators and circuit board material in the electrics.

    The reason people refer to this material as Tufnol is because it's a famous brand name - a bit like referring to any vacuum cleaner as a Hoover or any clear plastic as Perspex. Personally I always use generic SRBF/P because it's much cheaper than paying for the brand name. So technically Edgar is right, it's not correct to refer to the material as Tufnol, but it's SRBP. Bakelite is a completely different material and is quite brittle. It would be useless for making aircraft sets but the name does get used, even cropping up in official documentation sometimes. (Edit: Troffa - you beat me to it!)

     

    Cheers

     

    Dennis

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    Revell 1/32 Hurricane llb. Finishing touches.

    in LSM 1/35 and Larger Work In Progress

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    6 hours ago, Clunkmeister said:

    I’d love a little feedback on what I missed with the camo.

    The shades, to my old eye at least, look good, and will look even better when dulled and shaded.  But regarding the RAF pattern, to me it seems pretty “close”, but not exact to the factory B type reverse pattern.  

    The pattern to me looks pretty close to the official scheme, close enough for government work, maybe some tweaks on the tail.

     

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    Cheers

     

    Dennis

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    Revell 1/32 Hurricane llb. Finishing touches.

    in LSM 1/35 and Larger Work In Progress

    Posted

    Red doped patches over the gun ports, nice article here from Britmodeller.

    https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235056137-red-doped-linen-over-the-gun-ports/

    This one is predominately about Spitfires but does have a Hurricane IIb photo showing the patches, which came in a sticky backed roll.

    https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235029913-spitfire-rearming-and-gun-muzzle-patch-application-films/

    Cheers

     

    Dennis

     

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