NigelR32 Posted January 22, 2014 Author Share Posted January 22, 2014 Thanks for straightening that out Kev. I've now been able to confidently push forward with my build as a result. Here's the partially finished hull. Note the great interior detail given by Trumpeter. If you look closely, you'll see the extent of the pin marks again.. Here's the top half, notice all the Mr Surfacer on all the seams.. lots and lots of work has gone into the assembly of the side panels onto the top section... I thought I'd go ahead and fit the massive side structures tonight, but guess what.. there's ejector pin marks to fill in, the same as the ones on the transport x sections. They are rectangular undercuts in the edges of the parts. I've added plastic strip in the cut outs and will now have to wait again before I can continue... more sanding on the way.. I may sound like I'm not enjoying this build.. wrong!! I'm loving it, after all, shake and bake can get boring!! Thanks for looking in.. more tomorrow I hope.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_ Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 As they say, a picture says a thousand words... so here's a picture of the Karl on its rail transport trucks with raised suspension and clearly discernible turn-buckles in place... Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelR32 Posted January 26, 2014 Author Share Posted January 26, 2014 Thank you very much for posting this pic Matt. It is exactly what I've been looking for..it does raise a question though?? Where has all the slack in the tracks gone?? I can see some droop under the front idler, but nowhere else?? If you look closely at the front idler you can see the swinging arm is nearly vertical, so they haven't taken out the slack there?????? Very confusing!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelR32 Posted January 26, 2014 Author Share Posted January 26, 2014 Here's an update on this lovely kit.. As you can see here, I'm being halted constantly by the need to use Mr Surfacer on all the pin marks and joints. We must remember this is one of Trumpeters very early releases, so we must expect this sort of thing. Their later kits are much better, in that I mean they have listened to the modelling community and done away with pin marks in visible spots. The rifling on both barrels has been wrongly portrayed in the kit. The rifling is too deep and has no helix in it. As you can see, Eduard have come to the rescue with this, supplying both barrels with a correctly rifled insert. And here they are.. fitted... I have achieved the square edge, for realism, by running superglue around the outer edge, then sanding whilst tacky so the dust sticks into the glue. Thanks for looking in, I may start on the Friul model tracks later?? Any tips?? I've never used them before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_ Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Thank you very much for posting this pic Matt. It is exactly what I've been looking for..it does raise a question though?? Where has all the slack in the tracks gone?? I can see some droop under the front idler, but nowhere else?? If you look closely at the front idler you can see the swinging arm is nearly vertical, so they haven't taken out the slack there?????? Very confusing!! Good point. Looking at the image, isn't it the case that the slack/droop is missing from between the return rollers. The turnbuckles appear, for the most part, to be placed halfway between the return rollers. Sooo.... maybe they not only hold the lower half of the track up, away from the rails, but also hold the upper part of the track rigid somehow - thus preventing the sag...? Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawman56 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Good point. Looking at the image, isn't it the case that the slack/droop is missing from between the return rollers. The turnbuckles appear, for the most part, to be placed halfway between the return rollers. Sooo.... maybe they not only hold the lower half of the track up, away from the rails, but also hold the upper part of the track rigid somehow - thus preventing the sag...? Matt Even though I'm not building one, nor do I have plans to, my inquisitive mind will not rest until I figure this out! Although, if you look at the picture, the track links seem to curve properly around both sprocket and idler, but on the idler side, it almost appears as if the lowest link is at 90 degrees to the one above it. Is it possible that the tracks were run onto some sort of flat support? Something akin to PSP or Marsden matting, that would have pre-corresponding holes for the turnbuckles? I can understand, (mechanically), how the road wheels could have tension or slack added or removed, This could be either hydraulic or through the use of grease, or even air. That 90 degree track link, though, that I'm curious about...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_ Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Well, I've found two great shots that show the turnbuckles clearly enough. May raise some further questions? Lower image, second wheel from left.. to its right there's a rod of some sort looped into the hole in the track tooth... What's that all about? This particular Morser has been hit by a shell, hence the out of place wheel... Something else I noticed doing the rounds.... some parts of the gun are of an extremely rough finish... more like a rough concrete texture... presumably from them being cast in sand(?). So some of the cradle is then machined, but other parts left very rough... it'd be very interesting to replicate... Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelR32 Posted January 27, 2014 Author Share Posted January 27, 2014 Thanks for the images Matt. I think that steel part you refer to is a loop at the end of the turnbuckle? Strange though, those tracks still look fairly taught don't they???? Do you happen to know what colour the drivers compartment was painted> I have made up all the lovely Eduard bits for that area tonight, but am stuck with the correct colour?? I assume it's the same colour as the rest of the hull with a brown leather seat?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_ Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I'll have a look this eve.. I do wonder if the projecting structures that you can see between the return rollers are designed as part of the track suspending mechanism? Can't see what they'd be there fore otherwise and, if you project the line of that turnbuckle it joins up with the projection in question....? Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelR32 Posted January 28, 2014 Author Share Posted January 28, 2014 By Jove i think you're correct Matt. Those extensions do indeed have square drive shafts on their ends, so there must be some kind of mechanism in there, and the tracks do look very flat in those areas??? Well done sir!! EDIT:- You are correct Matt, check the link..http://www.one35th.com/morser/karl_gheuer.htm notice the ratchet with cable going down to loop hooked through track horn. I think the vertical bracket between it and the idler could well support the saggy track? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_ Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Excellent drawing... just what you needed..! The bracket seems to have a handle..? I wonder if it swung out and then locked to hold the track up? Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_ Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Driver's cpt... Well here's the best image (a detail of something larger) I could find. Looks dark grey to me.... does illustrate how dusty the outside surfaces of the vehicle are though... Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelR32 Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 Thanks for that Matt, It would appear the seat is shiny black leather and indeed, it is very dusty!! I guess it would get absolutely filthy in a short time on the railway? I intend to model mine with everything in transport mode, attached to the rail cars but with the drivers compartment open and the lid thrown down somewhere on the top deck. I've been working on the folded up handrails tonight, they are driving me insane!! I'll post some pics tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelR32 Posted January 30, 2014 Author Share Posted January 30, 2014 Any idea what these are?..... They are the kit supplied formers to make these tiny PE brackets... You can see them here along with many many plastic parts that make up the fragile, but well detailed folded railings... that's one side taken care of, now to tackle the other side... I'm off with man flu at the moment. Trying to put these assemblies together whilst coughing is not recommended, let's just say you should keep all the loose parts in some kind of pot... ask me how I know. I would like to ask a question of you armour modeller people.. what else should I do to these exhausts to make them more realistic? Obviously I need to paint the brackets, but what more can I do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoonattack Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Try gently drybrushing with straight orange. Sounds weird, but works like a charm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelR32 Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 Thanks Kev, I did as suggested, and look what happened!! Thanks mate!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUY5Y Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Love that hint! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawman56 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Never would have thought to use orange. I think I learn something everytime I log in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelR32 Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 Hi all, Just so you know I haven't given up on this kit... I thought I'd post a pic of where I am up to now. As you can see, the end is nearing, though I still haven't started on those friul tracks yet??? I think I should stick with this military modelling as opposed to aircraft? I have not even thought about putting this back in the stash unfinished, when I build aircraft.. well, that's a different story... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoonattack Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 It can certainly be addicting, Nige. I've cranked out a few armor pieces myself, and I really have a thing for artillery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawman56 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I can attest to the fact that armor can be very addictive! So much so, that I've reached the point it's burned me out. My M7 Priest has taken me months, and will probably take at least a month or so more. Not to mention all the details, diorama ideas, etc.... Now is when I start switching gears and go with the wingy things! My Spitfire was such a pleasant change. Now I'm working on a WNW Albatros D.v, (although I seem to have developed an obsession with trying to carve my own prop!), and have created a list of aircraft to add to my stash. Funny how a change of pace can make a hobby exciting again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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