levier Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 One of the things that made the Ta 152H capable as it was, the intercooled Jumo 213E-1 engine. The bare metal casting you see just above the base of the lower motor mount, to the left of the three vertical hoses is the heat exchanger and exit duct for the intercooler as the compressed air flows from the 2 stage 3 speed gear driven supercharger to the induction manifold. This allowed much higher manifold pressures to be used prior to detonation onset. The lower altitude Jumo 213F (Fw190D-13) relied on MW 50 exculsively for this charge cooling. Otherwise, the two engine variants were very similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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levier Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Hope this gets you along on the color and detail, best of luck with the project! Brian Silcox http://www.flightof2photography.com 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wumm Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Don't know if it's only a problem at my end, but not getting these latest photos Brian... S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolboxx Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Very nice subject, great start JP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levier Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Apologies for broken links... I moved the images to my own site's server, they seem to be ok now from what can see. I have one more pertinent image of the "gun" cowl open that I will have scanned and uploaded today. Brian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators JeroenPeters Posted October 15, 2016 Author Administrators Share Posted October 15, 2016 Apologies for broken links... I moved the images to my own site's server, they seem to be ok now from what can see. I have one more pertinent image of the "gun" cowl open that I will have scanned and uploaded today. Brian Thanks a million!! These pics are amazing... Especially the one showing the inspection panel in the tail.. Never seen that part before. Cheers!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators JeroenPeters Posted October 15, 2016 Author Administrators Share Posted October 15, 2016 At home with the man-flu, causing me to speed things up. I don't work very neatly or organised. Just do what pops up. I discarded the exhausts stacks as supplied by ZM. Again: I can't get over the soft, undo-operating plastic and fiddly fit... Decided to replace the exhausts with some old Moskit exhausts I still had. Scratching the housing for these. ZM did break up the wings in the right place. Saving me lots of work. Downside: my lovely painted fuel tanks won't be visible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levier Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Top cowl open, My manual for the airplane has no labeled diagrams for this space. I think the tank is for windshield alcohol and the large hoses for cabin pressure?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators JeroenPeters Posted October 16, 2016 Author Administrators Share Posted October 16, 2016 Top cowl open, My manual for the airplane has no labeled diagrams for this space. I think the tank is for windshield alcohol and the large hoses for cabin pressure?? Cheers for that! The two large hoses are for oxygen in the cockpit according to my ersatzteilliste... There are oxygen tanks in the tail, but maybe they were only used at heights where outside oxygen became too thin? Now.. the smaller thin pipes you see running below the thick hoses, those contain the window cleaning solution. The forward tank is actually the 55 litre oil tank. Look at the pic below from ZM. It's cute they give you detail, but it's just a crude representation. What's the use? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators JeroenPeters Posted October 16, 2016 Author Administrators Share Posted October 16, 2016 Used some Uschi woodgrain decal for the wooden hatch: and added copper wiring for the tail / rudder control cables. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators JeroenPeters Posted October 16, 2016 Author Administrators Share Posted October 16, 2016 About to close the fuselage: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators James H Posted October 16, 2016 Administrators Share Posted October 16, 2016 I know you're loving this one! Possibly the best fitting kit you ever built. Also good that you are building it in a derelict state and weathering the crap out of it. Looks damn fine so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wumm Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 I know you're loving this one! Possibly the best fitting kit you ever built. I can't tell if you're being facetious or not Jim... The details from post #41: Starboard pipe is Cockpit fresh air, fed from the small scoop above the Supercharger intake. Port side tube is compressed air for Cockpit, fed from the small hole at the front inside the cowl ring, via the Kompressor... these are both separate from the Pilot's independent Oxygen supply. The tank in the middle is a coolant reservoir; while the oil tank is behind the firewall underneath this deck, beside the 30mm ammunition tank on the starboard side. The bright silver lengths and small boxes are remnants of the upper cowl guns that had once been fitted here in the previous life of this airframe. S 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levier Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Wumm, Thanks for that info... I searched high an low, but no refs in my possession. I was pretty sure the hoses had something to do with cabin pressure, wondered why there were two separate ones. I had read that there were problems with the pressurization, having to do with excess heat, I and do recall they just ventilated it with ram air to cool it. Also explains the little scoop above the supercharger inlet! I do have a photo of the panel open on the right side showing the oil tank access, probably get to that one tomorrow. Brian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levier Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Oil tank service door open, you can see how large the tank, nearly the same height of the Jumo. This view also makes clear the Intercooler and its large coolant hose. All of the hoses are a dark red brown color with anodized (pale gold) fittings. There is a handwritten inscription on the tank.. "A tank, not for St--K-" Not sure what the last word is. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levier Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 On the opposite side of the Jumo 213E, You can see the Kommandogerat, and of note on this particular installation, one upper engine bearer is painted (vs. opposite bearer). I would be curious if anyone can chime in regarding the large hoses coming off the exhaust muff and what it used to heat. One noted on either side. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wumm Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Brilliant photos Brian! Hoses running from the bottom corner of the exhaust shrouds go out through the leading edge of the wings, to heat the ammunition trays of the cannons to prevent jamming at altitude. It is a system also used by Focke Wulf on the A and D series 190's. S 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators JeroenPeters Posted October 18, 2016 Author Administrators Share Posted October 18, 2016 I will definitely add those pipes! Started painting the engine. First basic colors, some chipping and first wash. I'm trying to match the colors in the reference photo's. Black cover, grey / alu main body, black turbo, brown hoses, etc.. Oils still wet in these pictures. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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