PBJ-1H underwing recognition lights when radar pod added.

[Clunkmeister]

When the wingtip section was removed to mount the wingtip radar pod, where were the three recognition lights relocated to?

Early B-25s had them in the lower fuselage ahead of the bomb bay, but they were located to the starboard wingtip starting with the H. 

Did the Marines eliminate them altogether, or did the put them elsewhere?  The obvious place would be the lower fuselage behind the bomb bay like the A-20, but I can’t find any clear enough pictures. 

[BlrwestSiR]

I'm out at the moment but I'll heck my references when I get back and see if I can find anything. 

[Martinnfb]

Marines don't need stinking lights !   Can't see them either.

 

[DocRob]

I checked my ProfiModeler modification set, but there is nothing. You can see clearly, that it´s not on the wingtip, though. I hope somebody comes up with proper information.

Cheers Rob

[Clunkmeister]

I hope so too, Rob. They were required on all Allied aircraft, and

even the Marines would have wanted them.  VMB-613 and the 345th bomb group might have been better off putting them on the topside of their aircraft, being that they literally flew at wave or treetop height to avoid attacks from below 

[BlrwestSiR]

Here's the text from the Schiffer book:

Cont'd

Note the last sentence which says the recognition system was disconnected on B-25Js. I wonder if this would apply to the H as well and would explain why they don't show in pics. 

[Clunkmeister]

A test fit of the aileron along the bottom shows a decent fit.  Although the Profi Rad one didn’t provide for the edge, i will add a small piece on the trailing edge of the redone to match the aileron

[Clunkmeister]

What’s amazing is how crews with these gunships and strafers would turn into attacking Japanese aircraft and willingly mix it up.  They were quite effective. In a head on attack, an attacker would be overwhelmingly outgunned. 

[Martinnfb]

Ernie , I was looking at the pictures and the kink should be there, on the trailing edge  I mean.

[Martinnfb]

[PanzerWomble]

23 hours ago, Martinnfb said:

Marines don't need stinking lights !   Can't see them either.

 

Bob ...pull up .....Bob .....BOB !!

[Clunkmeister]

Thanks for that, Martin!   Thank you again so 
much. 

[Clunkmeister]

Hey Carl, that text looks awesome and may answer all my questions, but favor time…

I know it might be a pain, but is there anyway you could scan or copy those pages flat so I could easily read them?

You can PM me or email me if you wish. Post them if you’re comfortable.   And, do they have any pics of the light installations as well?  This is gold mine quality info here. 
 

[BlrwestSiR]

Ernie, I'll try to scen them tomorrow for you. I'll see what else I can find for you. 

[BlrwestSiR]

Hope this works. My first time on the site using a laptop.

It's the best I could do as the book is a it thick and hard to get on the scanner.

[Clunkmeister]

But it doesn’t say what the Marines did to the three recognition lights under the right wingtip after they installed the radome on the wingtip.  I’m curious if they relocated them or just never reinstalled them

[BlrwestSiR]

I checked the very brief section on the H and its usage by the Marines and there's no mention of what they did about the lights unfortunately.