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Agreed, but I had to do those to satisfy the OCD or left over rivet counter if you will. I have been pretty good not getting caught up in "paralysis by analysis" and just going with my gut while working on the last few builds but apparently there is a special reserve of AMS when it comes to German Aircraft. There was Es (and other models) with their cowls and rudders painted white but it definitely does not fit in this case.

No. I started with an existing profile, then modified it in Photoshop. It's the same profile used earlier in the thread.

I sat down and did the main artwork for the 109 and have all the big stuff ready to cut into masks. The uncertainty of the color of the S, the emblem and the cowl are still buggin’ me. So I made some color profiles and the desaturated them, then added some noise to mimic an aged and grainy photo. Compare to the photos in my first post. Here is what I come up with: Black Triangle + White S with cowl, rudder and wingtips painted RLM 27 Yellow and Emblem disc painted 04 Yellow as RAF crash reports describe other planes from 4.LG2 Here it is desaturated: Not working for me. Next up: Black Triangle + Yellow S with cowl, rudder, call letter and wingtips painted RLM 27 Yellow and Emblem disc painted 04 Yellow as I assumed it might have looked. I liked this one. Until……. desaturated and again I’m not sold. Next up: Black Triangle + Blue S with cowl, rudder and wingtips painted RLM 04 Yellow and Emblem disc painted blue. Hmmmm. Desaturated: A contender. Next up: Black Triangle + Yellow S with cowl, rudder and wingtips painted RLM 04 Yellow and Emblem disc painted blue. Even more Hmmmm. Desaturated. This one is close: Odds on favorite so far. Next up: Black Triangle + Blue S with cowl, rudder and wingtips painted RLM 21 White and Emblem disc painted Blue. There is evidence that the groups colors were used as the shield and call letter color on the eastern front after merging of groups. Desaturated: Meh..... Finally: Black Triangle + Yellow S with cowl, rudder and wingtips painted RLM 21 White and Emblem disc painted Yellow. Desaturated: I have pretty much chosen one but would like to hear other opinions. Feel free to share your thoughts.

They do. https://internationaltowingmuseum.org/

Scheiße! That's no hill for a stepper like you Ern. This is going to be at the Nats?

We'll get in mid afternoon on Thursday so I'm game for whatever you guys have planned. I'm not entering any models nor am I partaking in any banquet or side shows. Coker Tire Museum nearby as is the Towing and Recovery Museum. I might check both of them out. Even though it's a bit of back-tracking for me, next year's Fliegerhof sounds like fun.

LOL, kind of like my avatar..... Quick Draw McGraw was cool and his alter ego "El Kabong" was even cooler because he busted guitars over peoples heads.

Oddly enough, in the same thread the excerpt above came from there was mention of a guy specifically asking Galland what the origin/meaning of the mouse was and his reply was So, I agree our quest to discover the deep meaning of something turns out to be not so complex or meaningful more often than not.

Nice work!

I don't disagree with your artist theory in any way. The yellow on yellow was far harder for me to get behind than the white S. I actually hoped to prove the disc to be RLM 24 Blue. That is until I ran across 2 RAF crash reports for planes from the .4/LG2 and they both describe the markings the same except one does not call out the colors on the spinner. Obviously, whoever drew this profile did not consider that the cowl could have been RLM 27 Yellow. I know sometimes RAF crash reports were a little sketchy but this one seems pretty detailed. And then there is this passage I ran across in a discussion specifically about the emblem, it's origins and whether or not it existed before Galland adopted and modified it by sticking a cigar in the mouse's mouth and dropping the disc background. And just so it's still a little muddy, apparently at some point, different Staffels within the group used different colored discs(referenced in the above passage). This is just a supposition on my part but I assume the call letter and disc color would match. But, this was after II(S)/LG2 became SchG.1. I have to rest my half dozen neurons for a bit........

Further research has lead me to these conclusions. 4./SCH LG2 in fact used a RLM 04 Yellow disc behind the mouse. 4./SCH LG2 painted the cowl and rudder RLM 27 Yellow which explains why it is lighter than the color of the disc. I can find nothing to refute that the call letter "S" is any color other than white. This photo of an E4 from the same group seems to support the above conclusions and also seems to verify that the spinner is white/blue/white/black-green

That's a chicken shat way to treat a dedicated employee. I tell you what I'd do. I'd take the job, not show up and make them fire me. Bastids!

My condolences. I feel your pain brother. I recently lost a Terrier mix after 14 years. Best dog ever. Now my 8 year old Shepherd has developed pancreas problems and is not responding to treatment.

I'd like to use this scheme for the 1:24 Airfix kit I've been hacking on forever. I'd appreciate the insight and opinions of the experts here prior to beginning the painting process. I have made some observations below using the photos as reference. This bird is alleged to have belonged to 4./sch lg2. If that is true it should have a white call letter and a 04 yellow nose and rudder along with the mouse emblem on a blue disc. This photo is same aircraft but is mistakenly horizontally flipped and claimed to be "Yellow 2". This is the only orientation I could find for this image on the interweb. Here is the picture oriented properly after a trip through Photoshop. As you can see there is no intake so this has to be the starboard side which also turns the weirdest "2" ever into an S and better fits with the black triangle. After studying these pictures for a while it is my opinion I am looking at Black Triangle + Yellow S. Here's my reasoning. The S on the fuselage is darker than white but not dark enough to be blue, red, green, etc. The disc behind the mouse is too light to be blue as it would if it was a 4./sch lg2 bird. All the photos seem to indicate the nose is white, particularly the first photo. I don't see any way to confirm weather it is an E4 or E7 though I did see it referred to as an E7 on a couple captions. Please share your thoughts.

If my Fusion360 skills allowed me to model something that complex I'd be all over it. I have a pretty decent grasp on it and can model some pretty cool stuff but to get to that level I would need to invest a bunch of time I just don't have at this point in my life.

Now that there are quite a few 1/32 scale bomber options, B-17s, Lancasters, B-24s, B-25s, etc. Where is the B-29 and B-58 I so desperately desire?

I just booked 2 rooms at District 3 Hotel for a buddy (armor guy) and myself. Ern, I think you met Scott in Dallas IIRC. We are in Thursday mid afternoon and out Sunday. Got enough miles on my United Explorer card to cover the flight. So, what the hey? Dumping some RC crawlers and a drift car to sweeten up the slush fund.

B-24 to PB4Y

A couple 3D print options...... https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3313479 https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3443855

I was thinking that might be a cool craft to model but it's a B-24M 20 FO 44-51251 that got a couple glamour shots taken, went to storage and then straight to Kingman. Never assigned to a Bomb Group.

Stumbled on a really good shot of the side of the nacelle.

Great job Gary! I must admit I have never cared much for the B-24 but having it available in my preferred scale makes it a must have and I don't really care who does not like the kit. I will build mine OOB except for the markings. Again, great job!

Are you spraying MM gloss enamel?

I have a young guy that works for me that has a regular Photon. It prints really nice parts. I am really looking forward to the evolution of this project.

1:24 B-58 Hustler. Anycubic Photon S eh? I'm seriously considering one. What's you opinion of it? I have a modded up CR-10S currently but it's pushed about as far as it can be. My next rig will not be a filament printer.