PanzerWomble Posted May 10, 2023 Posted May 10, 2023 Are they not a bit old skool compared to Apache ? Basic ground pounders ? Or will the US not let them have that tech ? Confess- I don't know anything about these aircraft other than they are Vietanm era stuff 1
HubertB Posted May 10, 2023 Posted May 10, 2023 I suspect you get more Vipers for one Apache … Hubert 2
Martinnfb Posted May 10, 2023 Author Posted May 10, 2023 We can debate for ages what plane is better suited for the Czech Air Force, I guess the time will show. However despite the Apache being a dedicated tank-pounding machine, Zulu Cobras are winning on the field of logistics and upgrades. As a replacement of their aging fleet Mi-24 are perfect. Needles to say that Czech Hinds were send to a good use over the fields of Ukraine. Win/Win 1
PanzerWomble Posted May 10, 2023 Posted May 10, 2023 23 minutes ago, Martinnfb said: We can debate for ages what plane is better suited for the Czech Air Force, I guess the time will show. However despite the Apache being a dedicated tank-pounding machine, Zulu Cobras are winning on the field of logistics and upgrades. As a replacement of their aging fleet Mi-24 are perfect. Needles to say that Czech Hinds were send to a good use over the fields of Ukraine. Win/Win Ah , stuff the US retired 20 years ago , so virtually free "aid" to give away . Cheap to run no doubt and plenty of cheap spares, plus CZ can donate a bunch of Hinds. Bit like the M47 in the post Korea era free to any Allie who wanted them Makes sense esp as CZ is NATO and so probs never have to use them in anger in a "peer conflict". Nice colour schemes too . 2
BlrwestSiR Posted May 10, 2023 Posted May 10, 2023 The Zulu is flown by the USMC as well. I don't think there's much commonality with the Vietnam era Cobras except for the general appearance and name. 1
GazzaS Posted May 10, 2023 Posted May 10, 2023 The Soviet tanker getting stitched up with depleted uranium shells won't care whether it's Apache or not. 2
Martinnfb Posted May 10, 2023 Author Posted May 10, 2023 Zulu is the backbone of the USMC Aviation Combat Element. A main competitor to the Apache. 4
PanzerWomble Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 9 hours ago, Martinnfb said: Zulu is the backbone of the USMC Aviation Combat Element. A main competitor to the Apache. Ah so a lot more current than I first thought. TBH gifting old stuff is fine in my book as long as it doesn't have to match up to much newer opponent ...ask any Russian in a T62 how thats working out for them when the Javelins start flying ..🤣
HubertB Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 As i have low interest in flying eggbeaters, I went digging. In summary, the Viper is not so old (first IOC in 2011), and is said to be faster and more agile than the Apache, with an air-to-air capacity the Apache does not have, but it has less firepower. Definitely not a choice guided by economics only ... Hubert 1
BlrwestSiR Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 A different paint scheme than the more common USMC grey. 1
Martinnfb Posted March 2, 2024 Author Posted March 2, 2024 And a few more, just because they are so handsome 2
BlrwestSiR Posted March 2, 2024 Posted March 2, 2024 9 minutes ago, Martinnfb said: baby boomers and millennials Neat to see them in the same spot. Such different design philosophies behind each one. 1
PanzerWomble Posted March 2, 2024 Posted March 2, 2024 58 minutes ago, Martinnfb said: She's really pretty Any more pictures of this particular airframe , she's real sweet . 1
BlrwestSiR Posted March 3, 2024 Posted March 3, 2024 Looks like there's decals for the Czech Vipers now. https://cavupublications.com/en-ca/products/cp35-01-zulus-back-in-black?fbclid=IwAR1r8tF_WQNCIuUoXafUQd0Csv22MjgK1zCZCk5XjhdT3Mw_vSwVX3lK9PA 1
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