Wingco57 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Hi all, After two consecutive displays at Telford the time has come for the HK Models prototype Lancaster To start a new career, to transform into it's original twinengined predeccessor the AVRO Manchester. the basic kit has been carefully disassembled into it's major parts. Luckily all parts came away cleanly. The transparencies are opaque and cannot be used but will provide great service as masters for new parts. The model is almost devoid of details but will provide a great canvas for rescribing etc. This thread will only be posted here on LSM as a long term project. I am looking forward to scratchbuild the interior etc. Anyway, here are some pics for starters. Cheers Cees 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkis Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 so, I'm assuming the fuselage and wings are the same as a Lanc? That makes it easier... Nice start on a very unique aircraft! Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingco57 Posted December 4, 2015 Author Share Posted December 4, 2015 Hi Clark, Welcome to LSM. Hadn't spotted you earlier. The catch is that the Manchester was fitted with two Rolls royce Vulture engines, and the Lancaster had four Merlins. The span of the Manchester was shorter as well. So the outer wings need to be sawed apart and two Vulture nacelles need to be scratchbuild. I did it before on a Tamiya Lanc so the project is feasible. Abd it is fun fun fun. Cees 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators JeroenPeters Posted December 4, 2015 Administrators Share Posted December 4, 2015 Yes! This will make it much easier to transport in my Alfa Mito! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingco57 Posted December 5, 2015 Author Share Posted December 5, 2015 Hadn't thought about that hehe, Cees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators James H Posted December 5, 2015 Administrators Share Posted December 5, 2015 Now this will be interesting That Lanc served us well 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingco57 Posted December 5, 2015 Author Share Posted December 5, 2015 Nice colour photographs, even that early in the war. Cees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingco57 Posted December 5, 2015 Author Share Posted December 5, 2015 So the rear and dorsal turrets need to be completely newmade. Cees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingco57 Posted December 5, 2015 Author Share Posted December 5, 2015 Hi George, All perspex. Those turrets were some of the earliest developed by fraser-nash. Here is a general arrangement drawing of the Manchester Cees 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMaben Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Take it to Telford and it's gone... to prototype heaven, to be reincarnated as a HKM kit. What a lovely thought ! Have fun Cees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingco57 Posted December 6, 2015 Author Share Posted December 6, 2015 Already have Mike, Wingsectioning on the agenda later today. Cees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingco57 Posted December 6, 2015 Author Share Posted December 6, 2015 As promised, my appetite for destruction has been satisfied this afternoon. The trusty saw still knows how to wreak havoc in unsuspecting Lancaster assemblies. It must have had a deja vu. The undercarriage came away clean, the wheels were sawed away from the legs. The centre will be drilled through to accept an axle later. That way the ( much smaller) wheels can be easily fitted after the landinggear has been completed. The current wheels are too large in diameter for a Manchester as well as having thread. So new ones will be sought. The nacelles were cut off followed by the outer wings. The centre of the inner nacelles remain as a basis for the new firewall and rear fairings. The centre section is identical to the Lancaster. It's the outer wings that need to be heavily modified, but more of that later. this will be a Mk Ia with the later Lancaster tail. The triple tail of the earlier seems to be too much work, as I have already a lot to do. Cheers Cees 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingco57 Posted December 6, 2015 Author Share Posted December 6, 2015 The current state of destruction. Don't worry this will all be followed by some healthy construction. Cees 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingco57 Posted December 6, 2015 Author Share Posted December 6, 2015 Hmm. But that means Shortening the wingspan of the horizontal tailplane and reshaping the fins as well as changing the bomb doors as the earlier manchester did not have the slightly bulged lancaster type doors. Let me sleep on it. Cees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingco57 Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 Nope, slept on it. I will keep the Lancaster tail and the model will be finished in the markings of L7518, remember that one George? Same as my 1/48 model and the aircraft of which we recovered bits near Warmenhuizen. Cees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Fran Posted December 7, 2015 Administrators Share Posted December 7, 2015 This one is going to be a showstopper for sure Cees! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingco57 Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 If not then it makes a great doorstopper. But the hacking continues, but first a few pics from the web to show the work ahead. Cees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingco57 Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 Note the small wheels compared to the Lancaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingco57 Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 The bombdoors have been removed so the interior can be fitted from beneath later. Cees 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators JeroenPeters Posted December 7, 2015 Administrators Share Posted December 7, 2015 Oh wow! How many kilo's of plastic did it already loose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingco57 Posted December 8, 2015 Author Share Posted December 8, 2015 Loads and loads Jeroen, But the hacking of the airframe is finished now (only later the outerwings will have to be shortened and a triangular section taken out of them). Next is to make the cockpit floor, on this all interior details will be fitted. Looking forward to that. Only problem that superglue doesn't seem to get a grip on the "plastic" used. It looks like it was 3d printed but not sure about that. It's certainly not resin. Cees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wouter Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 That's some clean cutting Cees. Big project, but big projects come with big rewards. Will follow for sure! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingco57 Posted December 8, 2015 Author Share Posted December 8, 2015 Dymo tape helps Wouter Cees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One-Oh-Four Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Very nice -although almost blasphemy to cut up a unique prototype model!-, is this going to be a Manchester with a 3rd tail fin? Very interested to see how it'll shape up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Well this is already epic as far as I am concerned, hopefully manufacturers or AM producers will take note of the Lancasters forunner. Cheers Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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