RalphSarc Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 I have seen on numerous finished WW2 aircraft beautifully detaied long wire attends complete with insulators etc. How are those done and is there a retail supplier of the insulators etc? To date I have used black thread! Thanks for the feed back. Ralph.
Members Mikester Posted April 8, 2014 Members Posted April 8, 2014 Ralph, I used a product called EZ line, it works great for this application: http://www.berkshirejunction.com/ezline.html There are different methods for the insulators but I typically use Elmer's White Glue. I've also been able to purchase very small gauge springs that are used for remote RC cars for the tensioning springs that were used in some aircraft. 1
Members Mikester Posted April 8, 2014 Members Posted April 8, 2014 Matt, they come from a Japanese company called LINE. I have no idea if they're available outside of Japan. I'll see if I can track a set down for you next time I'm up in Tokyo though. 1
Members Mikester Posted April 9, 2014 Members Posted April 9, 2014 Matt, my apologies, the manufacturer is Wave, it's called A-Spring, Part number is OP-011-120. http://www.1999.co.jp/10009289
rkranias Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 My LHS carries tons of RC stuff. They may have tension springs.
RalphSarc Posted April 9, 2014 Author Posted April 9, 2014 Our local Hobbytown has a huge RC department. I'll have to look when I visit this weekend.
DougN Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 I still prefer "fishing line" otherwise known as monofiliment. I don't really like EZ line as it's actually flat and can be a bit lumpy. As for springs, just take your smallest drill bit (like a #80 or smaller) and then take strand of fine wire from a telephone cord and wind it around the smooth end of the drill bit. Very easy to do. I use this method of all the aerial wires (see completed builds in sig for photos) Doug
Paulster Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 I use the clear monofilament. For the life of me, can not get the hang of stretch sprue. Also use the Testors Clear glue for insulators.
LyleW Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 I've seen fermis use guitar strings. cut them in pieces, pull the windings off and there you go.
Members Mikester Posted April 9, 2014 Members Posted April 9, 2014 I prefer stretched sprue to fishing line - mainly for its magical "go taut" abilities. Monofilament has that to some extent, but it's a lot more temperamental. As for tension springs...every time I've tried to make springs on my own, the problem I come across is that they're very easy to mess up after the fact (squeeze just a bit too hard with tweezers, pull on attaching line wrong, etc). That's why I like the A-Spring, it's steel so it's very tough. You can step on the stuff and it still keep it's shape.
RalphSarc Posted April 10, 2014 Author Posted April 10, 2014 Yes sorry Doogs but I can't see myself stretch spruce!! Interesting about making insulators from Elmers glue. How is that done??
Members Mikester Posted April 10, 2014 Members Posted April 10, 2014 Yes sorry Doogs but I can't see myself stretch spruce!! Interesting about making insulators from Elmers glue. How is that done?? I just use a toothpick to apply a dab on the wire, you can paint it to the appropriate color once it dries.
happy1 Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 Mike you could also use the springs from K-dee couplers for for HO & N gage model railroad train car couplers, Walters carries them Paul 1
happy1 Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 I just read in one of the Modelers mags that somebody just brought out some new elastic rigging suppose to be somewhere in between EZ-line .03mm and .06mm but I'll be be damned if I can remember which mag it was in, by any chance did anyone one else happen to read the same review as I did, If so would that someone also happen to remember WHO it is that's bringing it out I HOPE Paul
happy1 Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 I found this by accident the other dayUschi van der Rosten Fine Rigging and ordered a spool of it, I got mine from http://shop.lastcavalry.com/ it comes in three different sizes Standard, Fine. and Super fine http://www.spruebrothers.com/ Also carries it. Should get by Thursday let youse all know what I think of it. Paul 1
RalphSarc Posted April 18, 2014 Author Posted April 18, 2014 After reading all the kind advice given on this tread and a few other sources via the internet I had pretty good success with the bead hobby thread my wife gave me. I used black painted super glue drops as insulators. I'm pleased with the results on the BF110! 1
One-Oh-Four Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Good! Glad to see you have found a satisfying solution!
happy1 Posted April 20, 2014 Posted April 20, 2014 I got my order am quite please with it altho not much different from EZ-line it is easier to work with because it doesn't bunch up in little curls The Standard size is good for 1/32 aerial wires which .005 wear-as the fine would be good for 1/48 .003 don't know if that's metric or INCH. Paul
RalphSarc Posted April 21, 2014 Author Posted April 21, 2014 I got my order am quite please with it altho not much different from EZ-line it is easier to work with because it doesn't bunch up in little curls The Standard size is good for 1/32 aerial wires which .005 wear-as the fine would be good for 1/48 .003 don't know if that's metric or INCH. Paul Paul thanks for the info concerning scale size. Unsure what gauge/size the hobby tread is that I have but i will be on the lookout for .005 in the future for my upcoming JU88 and Me111P builds. Ralph.
happy1 Posted April 21, 2014 Posted April 21, 2014 Ralph the .005 looks real close to 1/32 scale, BUT the most important reason that I use the elastic line is because accidents do happen and aerial wires do get broken and at the most appropriate times since I've been using this material I have saved myself a lot of grief repairing said wires. Granted it's not for everybody but I like and I'll use it. Ralph PM me A Address and I'll send you a spool of EZ-Line the I won't be using, or if you don't want it who ever does PM me their address and I'll send it to them got two sizes both .003 & .006 After Ralph first come first serve (OH YA NO CHARGE) Paul
RalphSarc Posted April 22, 2014 Author Posted April 22, 2014 Ralph the .005 looks real close to 1/32 scale, BUT the most important reason that I use the elastic line is because accidents do happen and aerial wires do get broken and at the most appropriate times since I've been using this material I have saved myself a lot of grief repairing said wires. Granted it's not for everybody but I like and I'll use it. Ralph PM me A Address and I'll send you a spool of EZ-Line the I won't be using, or if you don't want it who ever does PM me their address and I'll send it to them got two sizes both .003 & .006 After Ralph first come first serve (OH YA NO CHARGE) Paul Wow thanks for the offer. I just PM my address. Ralph.
happy1 Posted April 22, 2014 Posted April 22, 2014 Ralph I got your PM and Address I'll get them in the mail in the morning you should get it in a couple of days I think the .006 is a little out of scale for 1/32 but I have used it for 1/24 scale I'll also send you a few little extras tidbits I scored tiny white and black beads that can be used for insulators I have used Elmer's White glue and Super glue for insulators also for a lone time. Paul
Edgar Brooks Posted April 22, 2014 Posted April 22, 2014 Can't speak for any other nation, of course, but U.K. aerials were stainless steel, so shouldn't be black; they were multi-stranded, too, but that's way beyond my abilities, even in 1/24. Edgar
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