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Ju88C-6 Nightfighter R4+HH.


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Yesterday I found a problem I wasn't expecting when I went to install/finish the gondola canopy, bottom panel and opening hatch in preparation for priming of the fuselage.

If you remember back to the gondola install post where I reported that I was having difficulties with the fit of the gondola to the underside of the fuselage. I resorted to using my shop grinder to adjust the curvature and then had to flood the ill-fitting parts with CA. Well I failed to take into account "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction"  and ran headlong into that equation!!!

When dry fitting the parts I notice that the gondola canopy, bottom panel and opening hatch stood a bit proud of the new shorter gondola!!

In other words the damn thing wouldn't fit!!!

After much refitting, cutting, sanding and head scratching I was able to fix the problem. My plan has been to display the Ju88 with the hatch and boarding ladder down so I'm not going to attempt to modify the hinged hatch part to correct it, lol!

So a word to the much wiser than I, if you adjust that gondola to fit remember "shit rolls downhill", lol!!

Here are some pictures!!

 

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Have a great day!

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That's looking real good Ralph. I do have one question. I notice you're building this from an A-4 kit, with those bulged rear windows. Was this not supposed to be built from an A-1, without those canopy bulges?

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That's looking real good Ralph. I do have one question. I notice you're building this from an A-4 kit, with those bulged rear windows. Was this not supposed to be built from an A-1, without those canopy bulges?

 

Not that I was aware of James. All the pictures I have show the bulged rear canopy. The only real pictures I have of R4+HH in 1942 has the cockpit covered but seems to show the bulged rear canopy.

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Been busy with my nieces High School Graduation, Memorial Day weekend and working in the yard/garden the last few days so didn't have to much bench time but was able to sneak in enough to build both post and starboard wings and engine fairings which fit together beautifully! Dry fitted the wings to the fuselage and was pleased with the tight fit as they slid on the mounting spur. I wasn't able to mate them complete to the fuselage as the flanges are taped for painting.

 

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Can anyone advise me as to the proper way to paint the landing light? Is the bulb yellow and lens clear or is the bulb clear and the lens yellow? I using Tamiya X-24 Clear Yellow.

 

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I would say the same thing: the cover is yellow. After a little google I found both, yellow and clear  :huh: and I found this picture from a Ju 87 light

 

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So I would made the cover yellow

 

Arno

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Ralph,

What I like about your build is that you keep an open view. Mistakes you share with us as well as the solution.

You paint a very good picture of what modelling is about.

Thanks very much.

Cheers

Cees

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Ralph,

What I like about your build is that you keep an open view. Mistakes you share with us as well as the solution.

You paint a very good picture of what modelling is about.

Thanks very much.

Cheers

Cees

 

Thank you for the kind compliment Cees as its greatly appropriated. Yea I'll be the first to admit I make a lot of mistakes but the end results are getting better and I'm learning new techniques every day. Maybe it will inspire new modelers out there that they can learn to do this also. 

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I would say the same thing: the cover is yellow. After a little google I found both, yellow and clear  :huh: and I found this picture from a Ju 87 light

 

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So I would made the cover yellow

 

Arno

 

Arno you are the man! I read somewhere that the Luftwaffe used yellow landing lights but didn't know if it was the bulb or lens that was yellow. I also did an internet search but since the conflict was a black and white war it's difficult to find colored pictures. I'll take your advice and do the lens yellow.

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LOL moon-roof sounds perfect!!!

I did further searchers and Rick was correct. It is a directional radar unit used to home in on airfields. Here are some pictures!

 

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Hmmmm, radar?  As far as I'm aware it's an advanced type of directional finding radio antenna. If it's a radar it should send a signal. It is possible, of course, to be a secondary radar. Then it would interrogate transponders on the airfield(s), thus finding out what airfield it is at what bearing and distance...

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Might be a stupid question but how big's the chance that the clear has yellowed over time? You see canopies changing color or opaqueness in museums all the time...

 

Thats a very good question! I know what you mean, you can see it very good on those MIG planes in museum. The Russian canopies seems to yellow very fast. But it looks different, they are not clear any more, it looks like foggy.

 

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Arno

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Hmmmm, radar?  As far as I'm aware it's an advanced type of directional finding radio antenna. If it's a radar it should send a signal. It is possible, of course, to be a secondary radar. Then it would interrogate transponders on the airfield(s), thus finding out what airfield it is at what bearing and distance...

 You are correct Erik. Miss type on my part. Also I didn't think about plexiglass yellowing over the years.

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Thats a very good question! I know what you mean, you can see it very good on those MIG planes in museum. The Russian canopies seems to yellow very fast. But it looks different, they are not clear any more, it looks like foggy.

 

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Arno

 

Yes, you are right. Sometimes you can see opaque canopies too inside museums. The matte opaque state of that MiG-23 I've seen only on aircraft that stand outside in all weather for a long time, although the P-51K in the former Dutch Military Aviation Museum did have a canopy that was as white as milk for years.

 

 You are correct Erik. Miss type on my part. Also I didn't think about plexiglass yellowing over the years.

 

Although that doesn't mean that Arno isn't right! ;) One reason why the glass really COULD be yellow instead of yellowed is that on aging plexiglass one often can see cracks in the material.

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See here:

 

http://home.versatel.nl/gmwzijlstra-prummel/EZ6.htm

 

It is an advanced direction finding radio system.

 

What I find amusing, as I read the radar info, is that we all forget that "RADAR" is an acronym for RAdio Direction And Ranging. I think it's amusing because certain acronyms have become such a normal part of life, that the original intent and meaning is sometimes lost. Like SWAT.

 

I'm going to have to research this some more, just for fun. I'm curious to know how "true to definition" this equipment was, or was it an advanced form, etc...

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What I find amusing, as I read the radar info, is that we all forget that "RADAR" is an acronym for RAdio Direction And Ranging. I think it's amusing because certain acronyms have become such a normal part of life, that the original intent and meaning is sometimes lost. Like SWAT.

 

I'm going to have to research this some more, just for fun. I'm curious to know how "true to definition" this equipment was, or was it an advanced form, etc...

 

Okay, this'll sound a bit weak, maybe... but I actually hadn't forgotten... The difference between the radio apparatus as a Peilgerät 6 or a radar like a Funkgerät 220 for instance is that the radar works by sending a signal and receiving it's "reflection"signal off an object and a radio like here is used to solely receive radio signals and using them to deduce direction and range to the sender of the signal...

 

I know it looks like I try to look like an all-knowing-insufferable-horse-ass and that's what I actually am but that's naturally not the case! If I really hadn't thought of it I would be laughing as hard as you! ;)

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No worries, Erik, I wasn't thinking in those terms, (although I personally prefer all-being master of time, space, and dimension, myself :lol: ).

 

I meant "we" in an ambiguous/collective way. I'm actually fascinated by the simplicity, yet complexity of WWII technology. Especially on the German side. So many innovations.

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Well this even I had an opprotunity to start the landing gear and try my hand at adding brake lines and micro clamps. The landing gear on the Revell Ju88 is a bit tricky to assemble and the instructions are a bit vauge trying to follow the black lines without a 3D picture or any explanation! I learned from my last attempt on my Ju88A-1 to not paint until fully assembled and ofcourse I'm using different glue.

I used some soft solder wire for the line, aluminum tape to fashion the clamps and CA to attach the line to the strut.  It may not be perfect but I think once painted and weathered it should look pretty good and add some interest. Also once the CA dries overnight I'll be able to straighten the line somewhat also.

 

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