DocRob Posted October 31 Author Share Posted October 31 15 hours ago, PanzerWomble said: Looking good Rob, will the hairspray keep a few days ? I've always hairsprayed painted and chipped within a few hours, don;t trust it to reactivate after fully curing TBH. "Tresemme Firm Hold 3" my weapon of choice, Personally don't mind the smell either. EDIT one of these MKs might look good in Oak Leaf or Plane Tree cammo ....hmmm 11 hours ago, BlrwestSiR said: Great camo there Rob. A nice disruptive scheme. I've never tried hair spray for chipping yet. I've used chipping fluids with mixed results. Thank you PW and Carl, there were many options camo wise, but I wanted to create an own pattern. I used hairspray on many occasions and it always worked for me, even after days. With my Corsair build, I used it even in two layers, separating the primer color from the metal base and between the camo color and the primer, to achieve more depth with the chipping. The only issue I have, besides the dreaded smell, is that sometimes the covering paint layers activate the hairspray a bit, normally not a problem with weathered objects. I have some heavy chipping fluid as well, but never really used it. Cheers Rob 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocRob Posted Monday at 05:56 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 05:56 PM Painting and decaling the Kampfanzug is relatively time consuming, as every layer of paint or varnish has to dry properly. I sprayed some yellow areas on the weapon arm and weapons and brush painted many details. A coat of Pledge went onto the camouflage as a gloss base for decaling. The supplied decals were good to work with, luckily. I had different experiences with Hasegawa´s MaK decals, which were rigid and won´t settle on curved surfaces. On top, I put a matte coat, using the matte varnish from Winsor and Newton Galeria, which @PanzerWomble recommended, for the first time. I need some more experience with the stuf, but like the result. I used Pledge and the water based matte varnish to hopefully be able to activate the hairspray under these numerous layers. Next will be heavy weathering, the most important step of this project. I hope, I can achieve the desired look. Cheers Rob 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belugawhaleman Posted Monday at 08:51 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:51 PM Looking great Rob! I've been eyeing some Maschinen Krieger kits and have one on the way. Can't wait. I have a weird idea for the camo. ' been thinking how do you weather something that walks on the moon? (Clue) . No atmosphere no rust---right? I imagine wear areas, scratches, damage, etc. Anyway, we'll see. I'm enjoying your build. Keep up the good work! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocRob Posted Tuesday at 09:05 AM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 09:05 AM Thank you Paul, Maschinen Krieger kits are a real fun to build and paint. You can make your own designs and there is no room for discussions about historical accuracy . I can´t wait to see what you make of yours, which seems to be one of the moon based kits (Kamel? or just a power suit?). Leakage may happen on the moon as well, maybe impacts from meteorite fragments and dust. Cheers Rob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belugawhaleman Posted Tuesday at 06:31 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:31 PM 9 hours ago, DocRob said: Thank you Paul, Maschinen Krieger kits are a real fun to build and paint. You can make your own designs and there is no room for discussions about historical accuracy . I can´t wait to see what you make of yours, which seems to be one of the moon based kits (Kamel? or just a power suit?). Leakage may happen on the moon as well, maybe impacts from meteorite fragments and dust. Cheers Rob Yes, bought the Camel from Plaza Japan. They have it for $ 39.00 USD. They shipped it out yesterday , so about a week or so as I chose a cheaper shipping option. Anyway, I think it will be a fun project. I have some toy steam engine driving bands that could make great armoured cables, I was thinking. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanzerWomble Posted Tuesday at 09:45 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 09:45 PM Plastic water bottle is pleasantly 'anachronistic'. That hairspray is buried deep...... I hope it still behaves for you or out with the sponge I guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocRob Posted Wednesday at 08:46 AM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 08:46 AM 14 hours ago, belugawhaleman said: Yes, bought the Camel from Plaza Japan. They have it for $ 39.00 USD. Nice one Paul, I thought about getting one too. I recently bought the Neuspotter, which looks sinister somehow. I purchased it also from Plaza Japan, but it took them more than three weeks to even ship the parcel. It hasn´t arrived yet, but I hope it will soon. I may ad the bugger to the Kampfanzug sandbox dio. Cheers Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocRob Posted Wednesday at 08:49 AM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 08:49 AM 11 hours ago, PanzerWomble said: Plastic water bottle is pleasantly 'anachronistic'. That hairspray is buried deep...... I hope it still behaves for you or out with the sponge I guess. You should become a fortune (or in this case misfortune) teller. I started with the chipping yesterday, but it proved difficult. The hairspray barely worked and I thought about additional sponge chipping . Cheers Rob 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belugawhaleman Posted Wednesday at 09:14 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:14 AM 35 minutes ago, DocRob said: Nice one Paul, I thought about getting one too. I recently bought the Neuspotter, which looks sinister somehow. I purchased it also from Plaza Japan, but it took them more than three weeks to even ship the parcel. It hasn´t arrived yet, but I hope it will soon. I may ad the bugger to the Kampfanzug sandbox dio. Cheers Rob Yes, the Neuspotter does look sinister. Cool! I ordered the Maschinen Krieger P.K.A today from Plaza....an armoured space suit thing...looks to be armed with a sci-fi equivalent of a Panzerfaust! Whoever's in that Camel better watch out ! The annoying thing about Plaza is the time they take to get things out...sort of like Hobbylinc in the U.S.. In my case the shipment with the Camel was held up by the availability of the other item I ordered....a Hasegawa "Egg Girl" , a nurse figure that seems to be in demand,....... Pairing up the two for your dio would be a great idea! No, I don't mean the nurse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocRob Posted Friday at 10:54 AM Author Share Posted Friday at 10:54 AM It´s time for some heavy wear and tear for the Kampfanzug. Unfortunately, the hairspray wasn´t working like planned, possibly due to many layers of paint and varnish on top. Right, plan B, scratching, chiseling, grinding, sanding and rubbing was incorporated using a variety of tools, to achieve different looking wear, a messy affair. I don´t like the effect right now, as it doesn´t look like my planned sandblast treatment, but it will have to do as a first stage for weathering. I will try to accomplish the sandblast effect with sponge chipping and stiff brush dabbing. You can clearly see, that one side is almost stripped of paint, while the other is relatively unharmed. I want to simulate a one sided sandblast, to add some dynamic into the weathering. Cheers Rob 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullArmor Posted Friday at 11:42 AM Share Posted Friday at 11:42 AM looking good👍. I managed to create very realistic worn paint surface. First i painted model black. Then sprayed main color. Then before main color was completely dry used brass wire brush to scrape off some paint revealing black underneath. To finish this off you can use drybrushing steel color to these black marks. This will make those effects stand out more. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HubertB Posted Friday at 04:49 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:49 PM Have you tried glass-fiber pens to wear the surface ? Hubert 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocRob Posted Friday at 05:06 PM Author Share Posted Friday at 05:06 PM 5 hours ago, FullArmor said: I managed to create very realistic worn paint surface. First i painted model black. Then sprayed main color. Then before main color was completely dry used brass wire brush to scrape off some paint revealing black underneath. To finish this off you can use drybrushing steel color to these black marks. This will make those effects stand out more. Another interesting attempt, in parts, I will replicate some of it the other way around. I´m not in panic mode right now, but felt, bast work substractive, removing material and then add new layers. 13 minutes ago, HubertB said: Have you tried glass-fiber pens to wear the surface ? Yup Hubert, but unfortunately, this time it didn´t work too well. The colors I chose (Tamiya XF) dried rock hard, even when sprayed in thin layers and were not easy to remove. The fiber pen left a lot of unhealthy glass fier shards, but had nearly no effect, other than sticking in my hand . Cheers Rob 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlrwestSiR Posted yesterday at 01:04 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:04 AM Rob, what about a sanding stick? Use a finer grade one and gently sand the areas you want to wear away the paint. I used this approach on my F4U wing roots to simulate the wear I wanted. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocRob Posted 16 hours ago Author Share Posted 16 hours ago 8 hours ago, BlrwestSiR said: Rob, what about a sanding stick? Use a finer grade one and gently sand the areas you want to wear away the paint. I used this approach on my F4U wing roots to simulate the wear I wanted. Thank you Carl, I used sanding sticks as well. Your wear looks absolutely fantastic and I managed something similar with my F4-U, using multilayer hairspray. With the Kampfanzug it was different somehow, because of two factors, I wanted decals to be similar treated than the rest, which meant an additional gloss layer of Pledge and a sealing layer of W&N acrylic matte. The second factor is the shape of the Kampfanzug and the idea of having a sandblast wear, not impacting with the airflow, like with the wing, but straight on. Cheers Rob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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