Trumpeter 1/32 Ju 87G

[aderowlands]

Well a little more detective work and I think I've come to the understanding that the G-1 was built from converted D series Stukas so did retain some of those features, the dive brake fixings and the wing top fairings. G-2's were as far as I can tell new builds with the extended wing tips like the D-5 series. As best as I can tell from zooming in on a photo of the Stuka Rudel surrendered by crash landing theres no dive brake parts and a different photo of it in the air it looks like no cockpit side slab armour and no wing top fairings/bulges so it would seem I'm good with what the kit provides. I've also come across some interesting photos of a G that may or may not be Rudel's Stuka in a winter whitewash which is appealing. 

[Peterpools]

Ade

Nice progress and that masking would have driven me crazy  - looks fantastic

Keep 'em comin

[Grunhertz]

That sounds like trumpeter all over to me 

[Clunkmeister]

This is looking awesome so far!  A great choice of subject to be sure, and let’s face it, Rudel was one seriously fierce warrior who took an obsolete old airplane and made it a contender again.

following this one with interest.

[aderowlands]

A little more work done today, an attempt at restoring some lost detail from fairing various bits and pieces in to the fuselage. 

Its a job I hate, probably the job I hate most in this hobby. I will never be able to restore what was lost that’s for sure. Radu Briznan’s rivet wheel used in an attempt to put back lost rivets on the cowling. Came out ok,  not brilliant but it will work under a couple of coats of paint. 

The Vogel has its wings, well half of them anyway. It’s a very big bird too. I first tried the fit with both wing halves taped together, for me this was a no go as the join to the inner wings wasn’t stellar and I do not want to be sanding in that area as it would be a bear. So I did it this way, the provided wing spar would ensure the correct dihedral could be attained whilst getting a nicer fit to the inner wings. It works better than the other way. I remember this being a problem area on the Hasegawa kit too. I also added the props under the horizontal stabs after checking to see if I could get away with doing it after painting, but this being a Trumpeter kit one fit like a dream, the other was a dog, I know not why, but it just didn’t want to sit in its recess and touch the horizontal stab in the corresponding slot, so out with the glue to melt some styrene and manipulate it into position. 

Progress will likely slow a little over the next week as I work my week on night shifts. Learnt long ago to leave kits alone when sleep deprived. The bottom wing halves need to be joined to the tops, some fairing in around the radiator face and a little tidy up of the fuselage with some super fine grit micro mesh and it will be ready for paint. Still to be done are the wheel spats and those whacking great guns. 

[JohnB]

This is looking really good. Very nice work Ade.

[Peterpools]

Ade

Sure is looking mighty good.

Keep 'em comin

Peter

[aderowlands]

An update of sorts. Since last posting on this I finished my week on night shifts, each day during that week I worked only on sanding out scratches from seam elimination and restoring lost detail, I did one sanding grade each day basically, all went to plan, the last bits were added yesterday, radio mast, rear machine guns, then canopy, the glass cover for the RDF gizmo in the rear fuselage, now let me say, I had planned on adding this after painting. I am so glad I didn’t stick to that plan as this part was a nightmare to fit, an absolute nightmare, it can only go on one of two ways as it’s contoured to follow the curve of the fuselage, and being a circle, the front can be the back as easily as the back can be the front but damn, this thing did not want to go on, complicated by having had to add the rear facing guns as adding them after painting was a no go, knowing this now I’d add the glass part for the RDF before closing up the rear canopy on any Ju87 I may or may not make in the future. Eventually got the glass part to sort of sit in its recess, proud of the uselage in places, the best it was going to get, of course glue has ruined some of the paint work on the inner part of the RDF, so we’ll amd truly not thrilled at that but nothing I can do now about that. This abomination was allowed to dry whilst I was out at work. Got home last night and wondered what to do now, about sanding this thing flush. Out came the Felxifile tapes, the holder wasn’t going to work for this application so it was done by hand. Worked through the Flexifile grades to get a reasonable flush finish, then Micromesh, then finally Tamiya polishing compounds, it is by no means perfect but we shall see. Then today a priming disaster, Alclad  black primer and scratch filler, used with the intention to cover the many micro scratches still present. Normally I spray a home made thinned down mix of Gunze black primer but I haven’t usually had to attack a model with so much sanding. Well anyway, it’s far from my first time using the stuff but it’s dried dusty in several places and looks like crap as a result. I had time to sand and polish it back with some sanding sticks and give it a rinse under a cold tap where it has been left to dry out thouroughly. I am away from home for a few days now, it was my intention to get the primer down and we’ll and truly dry for when I got back but that isn’t going to happen now. It will have to wait until I return. Very much not happy with this model at the moment as was ready to launch it at the wall due to these last minute issues. It had so far been an ok build, not stellar by anyone’s standards, some issues were of my own creation, some were down to Trumpeter. But mental notes have been made should I tackle this kit again. I do like the subject  and I got the kit quite inexpensivley so may get file this one away as a learning tool and get another kit. It’s a Bitch to sand one painted as there’s so many dangly bits, I have snapped the radio mast already but that can be remedied. I’ll throw some primer at it when I get back home and we’ll see where we go from there. 

[nmayhew]

Thank you for sharing.

I hope you manage to progress with this.

one thing I could never work out was whether the Gs (or even Ds) has the window down through the cockpit and out under where the bomb cradle was / is?

I have that Classic Pubs Stuka book you showed but it was pretty poor at confirming such basic detail I recall (haven’t looked at it for years).

Anyway, hope the project does come to fruition for you.

Nick

 

 

[aderowlands]

1 hour ago, nmayhew said:

Thank you for sharing.

I hope you manage to progress with this.

one thing I could never work out was whether the Gs (or even Ds) has the window down through the cockpit and out under where the bomb cradle was / is?

I have that Classic Pubs Stuka book you showed but it was pretty poor at confirming such basic detail I recall (haven’t looked at it for years).

Anyway, hope the project does come to fruition for you.

Nick

 

 

This one is going down as a learning experience. I applied another primer coat today and I’m just not happy. Added to the other things I’m not happy with and know I can fix on a future build thus one I’ve decided isn’t worth further time or effort. I know parts will look like crap when the masking is removed, especially the RDF window. However this is the furthest I have got with a project for a long time so that’s a plus. I will pick up a new kit as I can get them relatively cheap from the Far East. 

As for the bomb aiming window, I asked Mark Proulx about it during this build as I knew the G retained an ability to carry a 1000lb bomb on the centreline but wasn’t sure if aiming was taken over by the gun sight. His answer was it was a question he had been trying to answer himself for years so it was a case of add it and leave it clear or add it and paint it over, nobody could prove otherwise either way I went. However he could say he had never seen a photo with the cradle or bomb fitted so I left that off, but the swing arms on the fuselage sides remained. Only a few hundred G’s were produced so references and photos aren’t that numerous. The Hendon example can’t really be used as it’s been tampered with over the years as a lot of museum pieces are. 

[Bomber_County]

Looking forward to more pics Ade, haven’t built any Trumpeter aircraft what’s your take on them?

[aderowlands]

15 minutes ago, Bomber_County said:

Looking forward to more pics Ade, haven’t built any Trumpeter aircraft what’s your take on them?

This one has been delegated to future paint mule duties. I can’t speak for overall shape accuracy as I know some of the earlier Trumpeter Stukas suffered in the nose area but the G and D being vastly different to the B and R in that area I can’t say. The cockpit has enough detail to suffice, fit was for the most part good. The wing to fuselage join was very tight, but a small gap opened up once glue was applied but nothing some Mr Surfacer didn’t take care of, one of the spats fit like a glove, the other took some work to fit, same for the the horizontal stabilator supports, one nice, the other a bit of a turd. Having built the kit I know where I can improve on a second run through, I’d do the nose slightly different to how I did it on this build. I’d see if the 2 nose halves can be fitted together first to get a better join and then try fitting it over the engine to the firewall in the same way I did in this build. I can’t see how it works if you follow the instructions. The part that gave me the most hassle was the clear top to the RDF apparatus in the fuselage, it just didn’t fit and had to be sanded to blend in but with the rear guns already in place in my build it was a real bear so in the second run through that would be done sooner. I’d give it a 7 or 8 out of 10 for buildability but it does have its frustrations as listed above. Just think things through before committing to the glue and it will be fine. The major flaw is the underwing cannon, Trumpeter got it wrong in that they modelled them as handed, guns feeding and ejecting from opposite sides on each wing where in reality they fed from the same side on each gun and spat out the empty cases from the other side. I think it would be a real pain to fix them so I got around it by ordering the G kit and a D kit, which for some r ason gomes with the gun sprues so I have 4 sprues for 2 correct guns. Though now Trumpeter offer a spare parts service so you can try that route. 

 

As for other Trumpeter kits, I can only speak for the ones I’ve built, the Mig 3 was simple enough though the windscreen is wrong, with frames moulded where in reality there was none. The P-47N had a lot of inner detail that would never be seen and the windscreen is wrong looking in that too, intact it seems to be canopies and screens where Trumpeter falls flat on a few kits. Their 1/24 Hurricanes are nice builds. I have a 1/24 109G-6 to build and an P-47D Razorback. I don’t do jets so can’t speak for any of their offerings there. 

[Bomber_County]

Thanks Ade for the down low, really helpful. Going to Telford so I am going to have a look at what Trumpeter have to offer. Thanks again.

[Terrykd1]

Did you ever finish the Trumpeter 1/32 Ju 87G that you described in the Work in Progress of Large Scale Modeler in 2018? If not, would you have in selling the decal sheet? It's a long sad story but I need decals for the specific airplane flown by Hans-Ulrich Rudel in the autumn of 1944. 

Please let me know.  My email address is terry@bddfinancialllc.com 

By the way:  great work so far.

Thank you 

Terry Dorsey