Administrators Clunkmeister Posted July 13, 2019 Administrators Share Posted July 13, 2019 Would these two generally be pair d, or would the gun be serviced by something else? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber_County Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Ernie, I’d say no but I could be wrong these were more infantry support vehicles not prime movers.... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sd.Kfz._251 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[CAT]CplSlade Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Usually they were limited to the 7.5cm Pak 40 and smaller, but the 251/4 variant was used with the leFH18 later in the war. The interior layout was different. Especially from the ones buildable from the kit. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted July 13, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted July 13, 2019 3 hours ago, [CAT]CplSlade said: Usually they were limited to the 7.5cm Pak 40 and smaller, but the 251/4 variant was used with the leFH18 later in the war. The interior layout was different. Especially from the ones buildable from the kit. Ok, so what would service the 10.5 as a prime mover? I’ve seen so many variations of the 251/4 that I’d almost wonder if it did everything. The Germans sure loved their half tracks. And sorry for the stupid questions. I know absolutely nothing about German armor and vehicles 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[CAT]CplSlade Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Are you saying you've seen variations of the 251/4, or just variants of the 251 in general? The /4 is a variant within the 251 series of vehicles, which runs up to around 22-24 types depending on sources. Layouts changed according to the specific type, such as the /1 being the common infantry mover, the /2 being equipped with a mortar, /3 being a radio vehicle, /7 being the pionier wagon, /16 having flamethrowers, etc. The /4, which towed the leFH18 was modified for ammo storage and associated gear for the artillery piece and I believe the crew followed alongside in a standard 251/1. Much of the time the leFH18 was towed by the SdKfz 10 or larger; also the Demag and even the RSO was used. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[CAT]CplSlade Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 And as for German vehicles, David Doyle recently released a nice hardcover called The Complete Guide to German Armored Vehicles. https://daviddoylebooks.com/son-of-sherman-1/german 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/nazi_germany/Sdkfz-250.php This site is pretty good.... http://www.sdkfz251.com This site should give some info Ernie........ 22 hours ago, Clunkmeister said: Would these two generally be pair d, or would the gun be serviced by something else? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[CAT]CplSlade Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Not sure how the SdKfz 250 page at Tanks Encyclopedia will help with the 251, and sdkfz251.com is all photos of 251s with no text data. The /4 was the only variant designated as an artillery hauler, and as far as I recall only AFV made that variant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, [CAT]CplSlade said: Not sure how the SdKfz 250 page at Tanks Encyclopedia will help with the 251, and sdkfz251.com is all photos of 251s with no text data. The /4 was the only variant designated as an artillery hauler, and as far as I recall only AFV made that variant. Well, what do I know............... I'm just an airplane guy............... I tried...................... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber_County Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Here’s my . Prime mover would probably be a Famo , see link below. Tamiya and I think Dragon do one........ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sd.Kfz._9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Martinnfb Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 still popular in Syria utilizing optics (Sfl.Z.F.1a) from Stug III, recovered somewhere in a forgotten warehouse storage ! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Martinnfb Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 in case you like variety Stalinetz 3 towing ML20 and lefh-18 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[CAT]CplSlade Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Bomber_County said: Here’s my . Prime mover would probably be a Famo , see link below. Tamiya and I think Dragon do one........ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sd.Kfz._9 FAMO would be a bit of overkill, since those were primarily for hauling tanks. The SdKfz 10 would be sufficient. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber_County Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 20 minutes ago, [CAT]CplSlade said: FAMO would be a bit of overkill, since those were primarily for hauling tanks. The SdKfz 10 would be sufficient. Probably right there......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaS Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Here's your setup Ernie. Happy painting! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[CAT]CplSlade Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 With a little scratchwork maybe you could use a few of those Revell squirrel kits for the horses. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted July 15, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted July 15, 2019 14 hours ago, GazzaS said: Here's your setup Ernie. Happy painting! I actually like that idea believe it or not. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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