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Cockpit PE is proceeding... veeeery sloooowly

i need more than a few minutes at a time to do this - hoping for some solid blocks of time over an extended weekend up in the mountains...

with just the slightest amount of luck, i’ll have this all at least assembled and primered by the time I head back to the office next Wednesday 

 

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Last of the plain PE installed, primed, swore at, touched up, primed again...

layer of Tamiya flat aluminum for wear and light chipping, then a slightly darkened cockpit green (matching some surviving examples from before they shifted to a darker internal green) and a slight start to some fading and detail.

when I get home, it will be time for the seatbelts, Eduard colored PE, details, washes and general internal mayhem to bang things up a bit and make it look appropriately lived-in

Meanwhile, it’s time to stop and watch the sunset, with a nice gin-n-tonic...

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So I’m continuing to take a hard look at the cockpit, trying to match photos of various vintages against the kit version, including the Eduard PE set.

Two things i’ve noticed, regardless of the series within the P-47D family, are the rudder cables and pulleys, along with what looks like a support cable that connects from behind the IP to a point just forward of the stick.  Since these are plainly visible in every photo i’ve seen, i’m going to see if I can scratch up a way to replicate them.  Ditto for the connections between the throttle and engine.  Last, i’ve seen two different throttle versions - I *suspect* that the correct version for my early series bird is a rounded knob, instead of the hand-sized grip provided in the PE set...

more to come as I dig a bit deeper!

 

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I’ve not had a ton of bench time this week, but still made a bit of progress. Most of the cockpit color PE is done and i’m working on the throttle quadrant and the mechanical links between the quadrant and controls.  

Once those are done, i’ll turn to cluttering up the floor - the pulleys for the rudder cables, control lock bar (this build will be displayed as during mission prep, so the control lock will be in place) and other suchlike bits

Everything is all a bit bright with that lovely clean color PE - it will tone down considerably with some washes applied

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Dry fit of the office, to see how much room I have for clutter... Not a ton of space in here!

the stick is waaaay too tall - by something close to half an inch.  It does at least have part of the connector for the control lock, which makes that a bit easier.  There’s also *just* enough room for the rudder cables and pulleys and a bit of odd wiring along the floor.  I’ll add throttle quadrant knoblies later - too much handling just now and i’ve Already lost one bit of PE to the carpet monster

i also have to redo the seat - had an unfortunate incident with some thinner, and it needs a whole new coat.  Fortunately it’s *supposed* to look a bit used! 

I’m debating whether I want to do the corrugated front bulkhead.  There are a few angles from which it will be visible, but it’s also a right royal PITA - jury still out on that!  This is something where trumpeter just flat dropped the ball on something simple... :popo:

Once those are in... washes to dampen things down, a few instrument highlights and on to the next bits

 

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Cockpit clutter coming along slowly, and without a huge amount of bench time it’s going to continue this way for at least another week.

At least there’s some reportable progress...

I worked out the throttle quadrant linkage, built up from some spare plastic and .015” hard wire.

Once that was in, I turned to the control lock and rudder cable pulleys.  The control lock is a bit of 1/32” brass rod, with a coat of thick CA applied and trimmed to form a sleeve.  I need to do a second layer and cut it square before painting and attaching to the stick.

The pulleys for the rudder cables seemed to be a bigger challenge than they are turning out to be (at least for the moment!).  I punched out four 1/8” disks from .010” sheet, which when glued in pairs make quite passable pulleys.  I drilled them and used some small brass pins left over from the Picket Boat as hubs - i’m happy so far with the results.  I need to cut and build the mounting brackets from some thin brass, then paint and these will be done.

getting the rudder cables rigged will be a bit of a pain, since there’s about zero working room.  I figure i’ll connect the rigging line the the rudder pedals before installing them in the cockpit, then route the lines around the pulleys and out through the cockpit sides.  I’ve seen a couple different versions of the cable routing - one variation has the cable routed through a thin guide tube from the pulley to the cockpit wall (outside of which is another set of pulleys), while the other simply has cable exposed the whole way.  

I’ll flip a coin and go with the version that seems closest in time to my bird...

lastly, i’m making up the leather boot for the stick out of plain brown masking tape - it has exactly the right grain for this purpose and I have a pattern from an original P-47 parts manual page to use to cut it out.

so that’s it for the moment - hoping to tie this all up and move on to the rest of the build after this coming weekend!

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Got the rudder cable pulleys finished and installed

took a couple of tries to get them looking right.  I ended up using resin rivets for the centers, sanded flat.

placement is as close as I can get, based on a handful of pics from different aircraft in various states of disarray 

ideally, they’d be a bit closer to the sides, but the doc case on the right side is a bit over-deep.  This forced me to move the pulleys a bit towards the center, but they look good when viewed from above/outside.  The paint will be washed/toned back a bit once the glue sets up. 

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Now this is interesting...  I have the Eduard PE set for this bird, including seatbelts

I’ve heard good things about HGW microfiber seatbelts, so I ordered a set, to do a side by side comparison.

insofar as ease of use is concerned, they are both more than a bit fiddly, but the edge goes to the fiber - if only *just*

now for the interesting part.  Here are the right-side belts from both sets.  HGW to the left, Eduard to the right.  Both complete, with a light Vallejo wash.  

Notice anything odd?

yeah - me, too...  off to the books again to figure out which is correct... <_<

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So based on original tech manual info, it *seems* like the HGW is more correct.  But then, these manuals are known to show general shapes rather than precise dimensions for things not the focus of the specific part at-hand

still looking - see if I can find some better contemporary photos

 

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Gotta love research...  

found this, which would indicate that perhaps the Eduard set is better... 

Isn’t it fun when primary, contemporary, and hopefully authoritative sources conflict?

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soooooo...  based on the photo, i’m going with the Eduard PE belts.  The HGW set just seems too small - like they put 1/48 parts in their 1/32 package 
 

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