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14 hours ago, DocRob said:

Interesting camo scheme, with the tape on Gaz :D. Keep 'em comin to put it Peteresque.

Cheers Rob

 

12 hours ago, Kaireckstadt said:

The part fit seems to be nice and the guns are a vast improvement over the kit ones!

Camo looks nice as Rob said…😁

Perhaps I should find someone who makes masking tape in 74/75/76?:rofl:

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I started modelling today with the goal of finishing the exhausts and associated metal shields and applying the first layer of oil paints to the pilots face. 

But before I realized it, I was cementing both halves of the fuselage together.  So I didn't get to apply any oils to the pilots....   I say "pilots" because I'm going to do three pilots at once so I can have them ready for future builds.

Anyway...   Adding the Brassin shields was a big hassle.  The kit shields aren't overly thick, and might have been thinned by sanding.  Anyway...   I annealed them so that they wouldn't fight the CA and because I had to put a curve in the port upper.

And then the resin exhaust stubs gave a bit of trouble.  They just didn't want to stick without clamping for some reason.

At the end, I wanted to test the fit of the clear parts.  Fortunately they didn't show any bad gaps or overlaps.

In any event...  it was seven hours of work with only a small advancement in the build.

The only real fly in the ointment is the filling that will be required behind the oil cooler where the Barracuda resin cowling piece meets...  note the red arrows.

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Where is the RLM74-Tape you promised to use Gary? 😁

To be honest: great preparation of the exhaust section which caused a lot of work but pays off! 

And the resin upper cowling part again causes rework because there is no seam in that place on the original cowling.

Can’t wait to see your next post!

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Gaz

Nice progress and the effort put in was well worth it, as the results look so good. A bit of filler and you should be home free.

Great idea about doing three figures at once as done the rtoad, a huge time saver.

Keep 'em comin

Peter

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13 hours ago, Kaireckstadt said:

Where is the RLM74-Tape you promised to use Gary? 😁

To be honest: great preparation of the exhaust section which caused a lot of work but pays off! 

And the resin upper cowling part again causes rework because there is no seam in that place on the original cowling.

Can’t wait to see your next post!

Well  Kai...   I hope this isn't a let down.  Thank you for the kind thoughts.

13 hours ago, Peterpools said:

Gaz

Nice progress and the effort put in was well worth it, as the results look so good. A bit of filler and you should be home free.

Great idea about doing three figures at once as done the rtoad, a huge time saver.

Keep 'em comin

Peter

Thank you, Peter.

Meine Herren, treffen Sie meine Herren!   Gentlemen, meet my Gentlemen.   Did google get that right?

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Here are the three pilots in question after the first layer of oils.  This is just burnt umber blended over Tamiya Flesh.

These guys are all very broad faced.  Not something I'm a fan of...   I may have to start investing in other heads.  Honestly, I think most sculptors have no idea how to make a narrow face with fine details.  Remember WNW's Richthofen?  He looked more like Robert Shaw than himself:

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Anyway...   a while ago, a guy on FB posted a bit of a guide.   I was just a picture of where to stick paint, and how it should appear once blended.

What it didn't say was how long it should take to do it.  I mean...   how long can it take to paint something smaller than your pinkie finger nail?  But it has finally dawned on me that you have to paint in stages, letting each layer/color dry so that you don't mess it up with the next layer.  So...  just one layer tonight.

Here is the guide image:

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Anyway...  come learn with me.

 

 

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Nice progress with the cowl and the exhaust area. I hope you will address the obstacles there without too much trouble. 
The face painting guide is very comprehensive, thanks for that. I follow the old figure painting rule of one base color and two lighter and two darker shades of the same color, mostly.
I like the result you achieved on the faces. The faces itself, hmmm, at least the guy in the middle looks a bit sharper, the right one looks like an oversized potato, I wonder if they produced 'Schiffchen' in his size.

Cheers Rob

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1 hour ago, DocRob said:

Nice progress with the cowl and the exhaust area. I hope you will address the obstacles there without too much trouble. 
The face painting guide is very comprehensive, thanks for that. I follow the old figure painting rule of one base color and two lighter and two darker shades of the same color, mostly.
I like the result you achieved on the faces. The faces itself, hmmm, at least the guy in the middle looks a bit sharper, the right one looks like an oversized potato, I wonder if they produced 'Schiffchen' in his size.

Cheers Rob

Thanks, Rob.  I'm laughing about 'potato'.   The center guy is ok...   just.   but the other two...  may have to get new heads.

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14 hours ago, Peterpools said:

Gaz

Terrific start on the three figures and thank you for posting the face painting tutorial.

Anytime something seems easy, it always turns around a lot harder and longer then planned.

Keep ‘em comin

Peter

Thank you, Peter.  These self-imposed extras have really impeded my ability to complete kits.  But what is a hobby without improvement?

9 hours ago, GusMac said:

Mr Potato Head on the right looks a bit like Till Lindemann

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Lead singer of Rammstein for those who don't know. 

That would be ok if the were as old as Mr.Lindemann.  But being young fellas who mostly grew up during the depression era...

9 hours ago, Kaireckstadt said:

Nice tutorial Gary! Thank you!

The pilots heads are not that bad at all regarding the details even if they seem to be too big. Which company are they from?

BTW: your German translation is totally correct?

You are welcome, Kai.  The translation was using Google translator.  But I've put the phrase into my brain.  The pilots are from this boxing:

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But honestly...   the more I look at them, the more I hate the outer two.

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Hi everyone!

   Hopefully only the first update today...   Anyway...   Two of our pilots are being sent on leave.  When you next see them...in a future build, hopefully they'll have nice, angular faces on new heads.

Meanwhile...   Herr Weiroster gets the second phase of oils...   the red-brown phase.

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I'm going for subtle shading here.  During the center pic, the camera didn't auto-flash.  The out pics were taken when the auto-flash activated, though I put my free hand in front of the flash bulb.

Tomorrow, I hope to do the blue phase.

 

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Gaz

Nice start with the oils on the face. Diffusing the flash will help soften the light and also hold back the amount of light from the flash. I'm not sure of what type of camera you are using but in the settings menu, there should be a flash setting, so you can hold back a portion of the flash out put - fill flash.

Keep 'em comin

Peter

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7 hours ago, Kaireckstadt said:

Nice progress on the face Gary. 
Looking really good with the oils!

 

6 hours ago, Peterpools said:

Gaz

Nice start with the oils on the face. Diffusing the flash will help soften the light and also hold back the amount of light from the flash. I'm not sure of what type of camera you are using but in the settings menu, there should be a flash setting, so you can hold back a portion of the flash out put - fill flash.

Keep 'em comin

Peter

Thank you, my friends!

As promised, another update.  This Revell kit and associated AM keep giving.  Yes...  giving me the 🖕.

Anyway...   here we go.

The first thing I did today was glue in the cheek pieces.  I then modified the front end of the Barracuda resin pieces that will hold the MG 151's using CA and a piece of white card.

The ensuing problem was discovering that the cheek pieces were overly wide at the top:

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To combat this, I glued a piece of sprue to each side, just a little bit shorter than the distance of the gap.

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Tomorrow, once everything is dried, I will squeeze the the sides together, and then clamp the pieces of sprue with forceps....   then I will apply some Tamiya extra thin and let it dry.

 

Next up was the Barracuda upper wing beulen...   or bulges.  After I glued in the glycol radiators, I dry fitted the parts.  Sadly, the port wing profile was too different from the Revell fuselage.  Even worse, three corners did not mate up with the wing or fuselage.  So...  those parts were wasted money.  I had to tear off the radiators and glue them to the it part...  whose bulges are facing the wrong way.

My new task was to reshape the beulen using black CA and baking powder.

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After much sanding and shaping...   thank goodness for the electric toothbrush sander.  It really takes the tedium and time out of these tasks.

...the hard part about 'liquid detailing' is that you often end up with tiny irregularities.  So, I used un-thinned Tamiya paint as both primer and overnight filler.

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Finally...  I gave the 109 her purposeful grin.

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It took a little internal fettling, but eventually the resin oil cooler slid over the kit parts.

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And the adjustable airflow gill/flap:

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There are some notable gaps with the cheek pieces.  I will fill those spaces with acrylic filler and then wipe off the excess.  This should render them less noticeable.

 

C'mon Zoukie-Moura...   bring out that accurate 109!

 

 

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3 hours ago, GazzaS said:

 

Thank you, my friends!

As promised, another update.  This Revell kit and associated AM keep giving.  Yes...  giving me the 🖕.

Anyway...   here we go.

The first thing I did today was glue in the cheek pieces.  I then modified the front end of the Barracuda resin pieces that will hold the MG 151's using CA and a piece of white card.

The ensuing problem was discovering that the cheek pieces were overly wide at the top:

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To combat this, I glued a piece of sprue to each side, just a little bit shorter than the distance of the gap.

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Tomorrow, once everything is dried, I will squeeze the the sides together, and then clamp the pieces of sprue with forceps....   then I will apply some Tamiya extra thin and let it dry.

 

Next up was the Barracuda upper wing beulen...   or bulges.  After I glued in the glycol radiators, I dry fitted the parts.  Sadly, the port wing profile was too different from the Revell fuselage.  Even worse, three corners did not mate up with the wing or fuselage.  So...  those parts were wasted money.  I had to tear off the radiators and glue them to the it part...  whose bulges are facing the wrong way.

My new task was to reshape the beulen using black CA and baking powder.

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After much sanding and shaping...   thank goodness for the electric toothbrush sander.  It really takes the tedium and time out of these tasks.

...the hard part about 'liquid detailing' is that you often end up with tiny irregularities.  So, I used un-thinned Tamiya paint as both primer and overnight filler.

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Finally...  I gave the 109 her purposeful grin.

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It took a little internal fettling, but eventually the resin oil cooler slid over the kit parts.

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And the adjustable airflow gill/flap:

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There are some notable gaps with the cheek pieces.  I will fill those spaces with acrylic filler and then wipe off the excess.  This should render them less noticeable.

 

C'mon Zoukie-Moura...   bring out that accurate 109!

 

 

What an amount of correction work you have to do. Can’t understand why Revell made so many faults.

Didn‘t know up to now that the wing bulges for the wheels are also wrong. 
Were the Barracuda correction parts extra created for the Revell kit? Astounding that they don‘t fit at all! 

Quite good solution for the correction of the fuselage width! 

The fit of the oil-cooler looks very good! 
The gaps with the cheek-pieces not! But nothing that can’t be solved.

Keep up with the excellent work!

 

I found the Hasegawa 109s in 32nd Scale not that bad. Already build a F and a G. Are they really that bad that we need ZM? 
 

 

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Gaz

Some mighty nice correction work and a load of time as well, needed to fix all the inaccuracies. Completely agree with Kai that in today's age, how a kit can be so inaccurate other then 'good enough is good enough'. Only time will tell how accurate ZM's 109 and 190 will be.

Keep 'em comin

Peter 

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Gaz, just catching up, looks like my work situation is about to hit rock bottom so time to read what everyone’s been up to a fire up the bench again. The build with all of its problems is looking great, how can some companies get it so wrong, hopefully Mr ZM will cast his magic…….

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10 hours ago, Kaireckstadt said:

What an amount of correction work you have to do. Can’t understand why Revell made so many faults.

Didn‘t know up to now that the wing bulges for the wheels are also wrong. 
Were the Barracuda correction parts extra created for the Revell kit? Astounding that they don‘t fit at all! 

Quite good solution for the correction of the fuselage width! 

The fit of the oil-cooler looks very good! 
The gaps with the cheek-pieces not! But nothing that can’t be solved.

Keep up with the excellent work!

 

I found the Hasegawa 109s in 32nd Scale not that bad. Already build a F and a G. Are they really that bad that we need ZM? 
 

 

Thank you, Kai.  Yes, it's a mystery that so much could be so wrong.  And yes, those parts were made for the Revell kit.  I'm a bit disappointed in Barracuda as the parts I ordered from them either required modification or were useless.  Lesson learned.

 

I have built the Hasegawa F but not the G.  Hasegawa kits are generally nice.  But simple.  More like enlarged 1/48 kits.  I have a G6 in the stash.

 

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9 hours ago, Peterpools said:

Gaz

Some mighty nice correction work and a load of time as well, needed to fix all the inaccuracies. Completely agree with Kai that in today's age, how a kit can be so inaccurate other then 'good enough is good enough'. Only time will tell how accurate ZM's 109 and 190 will be.

Keep 'em comin

Peter 

 

3 hours ago, Bomber_County said:

Gaz, just catching up, looks like my work situation is about to hit rock bottom so time to read what everyone’s been up to a fire up the bench again. The build with all of its problems is looking great, how can some companies get it so wrong, hopefully Mr ZM will cast his magic…….

Thank you, fellas!  Now that ZM has 109's in the pipeline, I have to ensure I get all of my other 109's built.  Nothing worse than having kits in your stash you don't want to build.  I only have one so far...  and it's WNW!

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Gaz, how true.. I have a bad habit of sometimes buying on impulse (sure hope I'm over that) and in the long run, I come to the realization I'll never build them and then selling them at a loss: note to myself to change my ways.

Peter

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Hombres,

    Much of today was spent filling... and sanding.  Then filling some more....   and sanding.   Filling, scribing, and sanding.   Etc, ad nauseum.  There was also some fitting...   but in the main it was the cowling area and the wing beulen.

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With my day fading away, I pushed onto the parts ready for oils.  First, our pilot got his blue layer.  It's meant to be very faint.  I didn't want to give him a big five o'clock shadow and photos of Herr Weiroster don't give me the impression that he was very hirsute.  So...  subtle shades under both eyes, the shaving area, and the back of the hand.

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Finally...   I'd painted the LG some time ago in RLM 02.  Yesterday I hit them the Molotow Chrome Pen.  Unfortunately, my pen seems to have two speeds...  either no paint...  or a flood.  I think I will go back to foiling the oleos.  As the last modelling task today I shaded them with a darker shade of RLM 02

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Once the oil dries I can paint the details like the metal clamps that hold the stainless brake line in place.  I'm also going to check on any data plates that may be there.

 

Happy modelling!

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Lovely work on the „Beulen“ Gary.
Why did you paint the ones on the wings gloss black? Control regarding rework?

What is the brown putty you used for the fuselage-bulges? 

Weirosters face looks great! I should really use oils for face painting.

I also sometimes have the same problem with the Molotow pencils like you. Returned to BMF like you if the oleo is too long.

Looking forward to seeing the next update! 

 

 

 

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Gaz

Nothing like sanding, filling, sanding and filling and sanding, unless it's the scribing that has to be replaced caused by all the sanding and filling.  Your making nice progress, just seems as if it's a never ending task. Nice subtle work with the shading on the pilots face - looks so good.

I guess I'm one of the few that still does the oleo's the old fashioned way: gloss black over primers and then Alclad Chrome.  I've been wanting to try the chrome pens as they seem a much better way.

Keep 'em comin

Peter

 

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