RalphSarc Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I also posted this on my FB group. Question: I've been using Vallego washes but interested in using powdered weathering pastels. I see that Tamiya makes several weathering kits but I'm unsure concerning these products as I've never used them.What do you use?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulster Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 MIG Productions exclusuvly. http://migproductions-usa.com 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahunaminor Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Ralph, I use the Tamiya sets and they are sort of like applying make-up. It is a dry firm powder. They come with a small applicator with a sponge on one end and a brush on the other. Dab the sponge into the "make-up" and gently brush it over the area. It will leave some of the "powder" behind. You can then use the brush to remove some to reach the desired level. If you moisten the applicator it will leave a heavier deposit that is a bit harder to remove but can be useful. I have had these for a while and used them with reasonable results. I think they may have been surpassed now by the new range of weathering powders and such from MIG and AK. I hope this helps. Kent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I use the Tamiya sets... The Exhuast stains on the F4U are done with them. You can use the stuff dry or wet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BevanBrooks Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I use the Tamiya sets... The Exhuast stains on the F4U are done with them. You can use the stuff dry or wet. Jeez Dave I thought they were airbrushed.........noice!! Ralph, you can also buy pastels from the art supply shop. They usually have a huge range of colours, just use a blade to scrape off what you need. Cheers Bevan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahunaminor Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Jeez Dave I thought they were airbrushed.........noice!! Cheers Bevan Me too!! Wow I may have to take a tutorial! Regards, Kent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpinestar Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I used a new product on my recent Wildcat build, PanPastels. This stuff is similar to the Tamiya weathering sets and comes in a large variety of good weathering colours. I found them to be excellent. I did a full review on my FB page, Facebook.com/Alpine Scale Modelling, if you want to check them out. Chris. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphSarc Posted June 25, 2014 Author Share Posted June 25, 2014 I used a new product on my recent Wildcat build, PanPastels. This stuff is similar to the Tamiya weathering sets and comes in a large variety of good weathering colours. I found them to be excellent. I did a full review on my FB page, Facebook.com/Alpine Scale Modelling, if you want to check them out. Chris. Thanks Chris. I had seen PanPastels weathering products on eBay last night as I was doing some brand research. You review on FB was very helpful indeed. I'm going to visit my local hobby shop tomorrow to investigate further. Do you have to set the pastels with anything and will they move when Future is applied? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphSarc Posted June 25, 2014 Author Share Posted June 25, 2014 Ralph, I use the Tamiya sets and they are sort of like applying make-up. It is a dry firm powder. They come with a small applicator with a sponge on one end and a brush on the other. Dab the sponge into the "make-up" and gently brush it over the area. It will leave some of the "powder" behind. You can then use the brush to remove some to reach the desired level. If you moisten the applicator it will leave a heavier deposit that is a bit harder to remove but can be useful. I have had these for a while and used them with reasonable results. I think they may have been surpassed now by the new range of weathering powders and such from MIG and AK. I hope this helps. Kent Kent. I saw Tamiya's weathering products last night on eBay. I'm headed to the hobby shop tomorrow to further my investigation. While I've been pleased with the liquid washes I can see that I'm nearing the skill level where I need more control and precise application. Especially when it comes to nightfighters and shading and bring interest to black, lol!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkranias Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Happy with MIG pigments. Always a work in progress for me. I use for exhaust stains and powder burns supplemented with a prior application of really thinned Tamiya Clear Smoke. Powder burns and dirt on wheels. Less is good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt6 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I just "steel" from my wife Lilly a few pastels and just try: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulster Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I need to digress a little from my statement. 90% MIG Productions use do I. (Dr. Seuss or Yoda, take your pick) I do dabble a little with Tamiya Clear Smoke and their Weathering sets. I have a little problem with the weathering sets as it seems difficult to get the product from case to subject. Once in a while I'll break out the Rust-All. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulster Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 The problem I have come across using pastels is that they are colored chalk. Any type of overcoat and "POOF!", their gone. Pigments are actually dried and refined paint and will hold up to clear coats. In my experience that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawman56 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Nothing but MIG powders. To me, they are the easiest to use and most forgiving. With the exception of a thin black wash and light tan overspray with my airbrush, my Tamiya Spitfire, (in the completed builds thread), was weathered exclusively with MIG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulster Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I'm even going to start venturing into MIG filters/washes and oils. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulster Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 BTW Ralph. I was given a couple of bottles of Vallejo washes and found them to be exceptional. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Jim H Posted June 25, 2014 Administrators Share Posted June 25, 2014 Ralph, I use the Tamiya sets and they are sort of like applying make-up. It is a dry firm powder. They come with a small applicator with a sponge on one end and a brush on the other. Dab the sponge into the "make-up" and gently brush it over the area. It will leave some of the "powder" behind. You can then use the brush to remove some to reach the desired level. If you moisten the applicator it will leave a heavier deposit that is a bit harder to remove but can be useful. I have had these for a while and used them with reasonable results. I think they may have been surpassed now by the new range of weathering powders and such from MIG and AK. I hope this helps. Kent Ditto. I have all the sets and love them. I can't work without them 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphSarc Posted June 25, 2014 Author Share Posted June 25, 2014 Wow as usual you guys never let me down! Looks like I need to experiment with Tamiya, MIG and PanPastels and see which works the best. Headed to the hobby shop tomorrow and will post the results of that visit. Looking forward to applying the pastels to the Ju88!! Another hobby skill door has open for me, lol!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahunaminor Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I use the Tamiya sets... The Exhuast stains on the F4U are done with them. You can use the stuff dry or wet. Dave, Did you use the kit enclosed sponge or some other form of mysticism? Wet or dry? Thanks, Kent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Kent, I alway use a paint bush to apply the Tamiya weathering sets... The brush that is supplied is just crap! Wet or dry... depends how its going on... The F4U Exhaust stains was dry... But the HK B-25 I did were wet. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpinestar Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Ralph, I oversprayed the PanPastels with Vallejo matt varnish. As they are high pigment paint based they do hold their colour very well when varnished. If you scrub them in well enough though, you don't have to varnish at all if you don't want to. They will stick well enough on their own. Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphSarc Posted June 26, 2014 Author Share Posted June 26, 2014 Kent, I alway use a paint bush to apply the Tamiya weathering sets... The brush that is supplied is just crap! Wet or dry... depends how its going on... The F4U Exhaust stains was dry... But the HK B-25 I did were wet. How do you seal it once finished? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawman56 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 I'm even going to start venturing into MIG filters/washes and oils. Paul, when you do, could you possibly do a quick run down on how well they work? I'm curious, but nobody near me carries them. Hate to order something I may not like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulster Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 "Crap" is kind Dave. They do have great color selection. I have them all. Even the flesh tone ones. I did have success with them on the exhaust of my Centurion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphSarc Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share Posted June 27, 2014 Boy Paul that looks so good. I'm going to experiment this weekend with the pastels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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