GazzaS Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 Ivan, That is some timely info as I'm up for another layer of paint. I had a paint problem earlier caused by using a paint that was too matte and therefor too grainy. And, the first time I painted the radome, the grey was too close to the fuselage color. Thanks! Gaz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaS Posted April 21, 2019 Author Share Posted April 21, 2019 Back again, Folks! It's weathering time! As the boss says... I won't go crazy. I started with the missiles and the paintless area of the engines friday with oils over the Alclad. And the missiles. The real missiles have this deep blue heated/treated look to them on the fins that seems to have over colors in there, too. So the missiles look a bit dodgy at the moment. The body of the missiles have some bare metal components I will try to emulate as well... crappy picture... Sorry! I've found a Facebook site that has some good closeups of a working bird that I'm using to inspire my weathering. The underside was inspired by this photo: And here is my result. The glare from the freshly laid oils subtracts from the subtleties I've tried to emplace. And for you MiG lovers... you know who you are... A sexy shot lighted from below: Thanks for looking! Gaz 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaS Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 As I neared finishing with the oils on the belly, I came to the realization that I had put the cart in front of the horse. Cuz the decals need to get weathered, too. Anyway... thankfully I hadn't weathered the upper parts, yet. I spent a lot of time trying to get the missiles to look like this with washes: In the end, they look kinda sorta maybe... I dunno... I also got Red 17 stenciled and marked with the Red Star: Today I noticed a huge gap in the instructions: There are no decal placement instructions for the missile rails or missiles. I have found the serial numbers for the missiles. and I applied the decals to the rails by using photographs and choosing which tiny decal most fir the bill. As you can see, there are a lot of stencils left. But they are all for the bottom and might be ignored as I don't plan on looking at the bottom all that much. Gaz 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocRob Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Looking good Gaz. With some weathering the contrast between the grey fuselage and red decals will be reduced to a scale correct look. It's hard to tell from the pic, but I would apply some steel pigments, maybe even mixed with a tiny little bit of copper pigments onto the wings of the missiles, the contrast looks a bit harsh to m eye . Cheers Rob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaS Posted April 26, 2019 Author Share Posted April 26, 2019 On 4/25/2019 at 12:41 PM, DocRob said: Looking good Gaz. With some weathering the contrast between the grey fuselage and red decals will be reduced to a scale correct look. It's hard to tell from the pic, but I would apply some steel pigments, maybe even mixed with a tiny little bit of copper pigments onto the wings of the missiles, the contrast looks a bit harsh to m eye . Cheers Rob Expand Rob, Thank you! I don't have any copper pigments. But I could make a thin wash of Tamiya gold enamel. I;m not really sure between which two parts are contrasting too much. Thanks! Gaz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocRob Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 On 4/26/2019 at 8:25 AM, GazzaS said: I;m not really sure between which two parts are contrasting too much. Expand Like I said, it's hard to tell from the pictures, but it seems to me that the contrast between the white fuselage and the blueish fins of the missiles is a little bit to harsh, but I'm maybe wrong about that (photos and Colour rendition, sigh). The picture of the real thing made me believe, that there is a metallic shine on the fins, that's why I mentioned metal pigments to rub in. BTW these missiles look huge, like you could place a cockpit in and man it , almost as long as a cola can, wow, never noticed that before. Cheers Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaS Posted April 26, 2019 Author Share Posted April 26, 2019 On 4/26/2019 at 8:56 AM, DocRob said: Like I said, it's hard to tell from the pictures, but it seems to me that the contrast between the white fuselage and the blueish fins of the missiles is a little bit to harsh, but I'm maybe wrong about that (photos and Colour rendition, sigh). The picture of the real thing made me believe, that there is a metallic shine on the fins, that's why I mentioned metal pigments to rub in. BTW these missiles look huge, like you could place a cockpit in and man it , almost as long as a cola can, wow, never noticed that before. Cheers Rob Expand I had hoped to retain some of the metallic look from beneath the washes on the missiles wings. But it has disappeared under three coats. This is all new terrain for me, as before I had only dirtied up some "metallic" parts before. Also, I've noticed that many things change once hit with matte finish. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaS Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 Well, for better or worse, I'm nearing completion. I've done all of the weathering I can think of, yet still trying to keep everything subtle. So, as the oils dry and I wait for a few days to add a matte coat. I'm not showing any pics because they'll detract from the finals. I'm going to give my thoughts on the kit. 1. I've been told it's the best MiG-25 kit around. So, I won't argue the point. 2. Early in the build you must add the landing gear legs. This is unfortunate as they are exposed to damage from very early on. Next time I will cut the nose gear off at a joint line, and pin it so that it can be added later. I broke the very end of it off which caused many complications. 3. Fit is not too bad, In most cases, trimming the inside of the plastic parts will get you through. Though there is a pretty bad one on the underside that has to be handled from the outside. 4. A mixture raised and recessed surface detail on the dorsal parts. Nothing insurmountable... but this is 2019... not 1969. 5. The kit is made to be built with the droptank attached. This means that the vertical spine on the belly has holes in it. It would have been nicer had it been molded whole and left for the modeller to decide if he wants to drill them out. They're in an awkward place, and in the end I just left them alone. 6. There are cones to represent the axles of the wheels and stabilators. Cylinders would have been been better IMHO as none of the recesses that the cones fit into are conical. 7. Protrusions. There are various small protrusions that are troublesome, or damaged by the plastic around them. Except for the clear sprue, the plastic all comes in one bag. This caused some fragile parts to arrive bent. 8. Missiles. They're pretty bad. If the fins had been molded thinner, I probably could have been happy with them. 9. Directions. They're not too bad. But there are no decal guidelines for the missiles or missile rails. Fortunately there were some decent photos online to help there. So... nothing majorly wrong with the kit. Just a few tiny things that could have been fixed by better quality control by ICM. Not gonna consider myself blameless... but there are times I wish that i could have gone back to the beginning and started a fresh kit. Hopefully I can have it matte coated in a few days. Gaz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Ivanovich Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 On 4/30/2019 at 5:00 AM, GazzaS said: (...) Hopefully I can have it matte coated in a few days. Expand 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaS Posted May 3, 2019 Author Share Posted May 3, 2019 On 5/2/2019 at 9:23 AM, Ivan Ivanovich said: Expand For scale Kamerad, we don’t want it too shiny. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinnfb Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Comrade? Do you wanna see your family again ?............ then.......... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaS Posted May 3, 2019 Author Share Posted May 3, 2019 On 5/3/2019 at 2:58 AM, Martinnfb said: Comrade? Do you wanna see your family again ?............ then.......... Expand You mean I have an option? Woohoo! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinnfb Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Marxism-Leninism offers many options, all over the waste space of Siberia 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaS Posted May 3, 2019 Author Share Posted May 3, 2019 On 5/3/2019 at 3:13 AM, Martinnfb said: Marxism-Leninism offers many options, all over the waste space of Siberia Expand Ah, if it was only so easy! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Ivanovich Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 On 5/3/2019 at 2:50 AM, GazzaS said: (...) Kamerad (...) Expand I wasn't aware we were sharing the same foxhole back then... ^^ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaS Posted May 3, 2019 Author Share Posted May 3, 2019 On 5/3/2019 at 9:04 PM, Ivan Ivanovich said: I wasn't aware we were sharing the same foxhole back then... ^^ Expand I wasn't aware the word had only one meaning or context. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinnfb Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 I love when we talk about the deep stuff .... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaS Posted May 3, 2019 Author Share Posted May 3, 2019 Well. The MiG is finished. However, I'm not very happy with it and I don't think it deserves a photo finish. There were a few 'wanting to give-up' points, but since it was a gift, not completing it wasn't an option. My main warning for those who build the kit is to be aware of the many fine protruding bits that are molded on the main parts. The ICM plastic is very soft and these tiny parts are easily marred, bent, or broken off. I replaced a number of them more than once. I'm not a dainty person and there is a reason I often leave tiny, fragile extensions until very late in the build. Hopefully some time in the future I'll build another one and avoid the mistakes that made this an unhappy completion. My apologies to those who were following, hoping for a great looking finish. I did use the model to help me try to take some better pictures with my IPhone. Here's two: Gaz 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocRob Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 C'mon, it's not that bad, in fact I like the result and it inspired me to finally get me a Mig-31. Your Mig is looking badass as it should. On the other hand I can totally understand the way you feel, aren't we always our hardest critiques ourselves. Some builds are just not like we had hoped for, but mostly it is more like a bad taste in the end than facts, it's bad mojo. Others will see that with different angles of view and are not mojo effected. Your Bat cries for prey and that's the way it should be. Cheers Rob 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaS Posted May 4, 2019 Author Share Posted May 4, 2019 Thanks Rob! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinnfb Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 I like what I see, the discolouration of the nose is nice touch. Everything seems to be as prescribed in the Motha Russia cook book. Gas , you have overcome challenges of this kit. I am certain that this baby deserves decent pictures in the gallery. Cheers M. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 I think it came out great !.... harv 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber_County Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Gaz, we are all own worst critics. I’d be very pleased if my F4J turns out as good as your Fox....... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1to1scale Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 I am seriously considering straying from 1/32 for the Mig-25PD 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaS Posted June 16, 2020 Author Share Posted June 16, 2020 On 6/16/2020 at 4:27 AM, 1to1scale said: I am seriously considering straying from 1/32 for the Mig-25PD Expand I would hate to see this monster in 1/32. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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