Administrators Clunkmeister Posted July 21, 2020 Administrators Share Posted July 21, 2020 38 minutes ago, GusMac said: Yeah was in the 5 year plan Jeff and this has just brought it forward. Gonna be a lot of cheap airframe aluminium available soon... The death of the three and four engine airliner is here for good now. Fanjets are incredibly reliable now and much, much more powerful. But no matter how good they are, I still can't imagine flying to Australia onboard anything with less than three functional engines. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaS Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 8 hours ago, Clunkmeister said: The death of the three and four engine airliner is here for good now. Fanjets are incredibly reliable now and much, much more powerful. But no matter how good they are, I still can't imagine flying to Australia onboard anything with less than three functional engines. C'mon, Ern! I make a great Pumpkin pie. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted July 22, 2020 Administrators Share Posted July 22, 2020 1 hour ago, GazzaS said: C'mon, Ern! I make a great Pumpkin pie. Don’t tempt me, man. I’ll be there, soon enough. Gotta do Mason and Telford as well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wumm Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 Oh Man, this was cool... The same aircraft departed Sydney this afternoon on her last flight to the Arizona Boneyard, but on the way drew a QANTAS kangaroo logo in the sky... S 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainMackayDall Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Well it looks like all 12 Qantas A380's will be stored in the Mojave desert. The 4th QF A380 is already there, or on its way. I flew on one of the first Australia bound A380's back to SYD from London, thinking that this was such a huge quiet and wonderful craft. Actually I flew up to London to get this flight, on an Emirates A380. I had a very Aussie comparison on both craft back then, the Emirates craft had a lot of gold trim and overt opulence compared to the more starker Qantas cabin decor, it was rather like the Holden (GM) model equivalent of the Commodore range. Emirates was the Calais model, whereas the Qantas was the Executive, or barely the Berlina model. But, Qantas had better menu changes, plus copious wine etc Emirates however, it seemed kept on the same menu forever. But Emirates had a business class rare stand up bar, which Qantas had not thought to install. That back bar, whilst flying, was a very social and lively place, and caused many an Aussie flyer to stray. I was also involved in a recent Qantas future survey, "Project Sunrise", where they were going to reconfigure their 12 A380's interiors to loose all freight cargo carrying to concentrate on range, as in, non stop Sydney to London with passengers, probably on a full 19-20hr flight ( I had done 17hrs on a A380 from Sydney to Dallas, so no big deal for any Aussie flyers ) This proposed configurations was surveying flyers as to their thoughts. sounding out proposals like no cabin crew aisle trolly service, with meals being self service, in a galley below, created from the freed up freight hold, that and or having concepts for exercise areas, child creche, sleeping berths for booking etc.. it was a bit lite those early 747 top deck concepts before economics came to play. - we already have/had a Perth Qantas Dreamliner nonstop to London, but the fact that a non stop to London was a possibility from Sydney and Melbourne was almost on the horizon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Correct me if I'm on the wrong path here..... this whole thing is kind of a double edged sword....................when the 'Grettas' of the world are so concerned about 'stuff'..............I get the economics of retiring the BIG birds, due to low ridership ( or so the airlines say) I sure don't see it when I look at Flight Tracker, but I digress..... and cost of operating such large birds, BUT, to me at least, it seems air travel is getting much busier in this world, and that would translate to ..... having to have and maintain smaller aircraft, but MORE of them to attain the same ridership that some of the larger aircraft can accommodate, plus if there are MORE of the smaller aircraft, that , even to me would translate to more crowed, skies, more of the crowding at airports ( tarmac end of things ) , more service vehicles, more... dare I say it... carbon , etc...... some how I'm not sure which is the better way to go.... Oh don't get me wrong, I kind of thought the A 380 was a little bit over the top, size wise , but amazing technology..... I'm just not sure if smaller and more of them is the whole answer, it must be very complicated in the board rooms...... now does this mean airline tickets will spike in price to help pay for the huge investments sitting unused in the desert, at................ 'Honest Ernie's Used Airplanes.................. come on down we have a deal for you' ............ Cool name eh Ernie?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainMackayDall Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 On 7/15/2020 at 11:18 AM, Wumm said: ...out of Brisbane (YBBN) is currently in progress. An hour long tour over the City, costing $747 for First Class, and $400 for Economy. Goodbye old Girl.. S 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Very Interesting Iain........... thanks for sharing... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinnfb Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 6 hours ago, Wumm said: Oh Man, this was cool... The same aircraft departed Sydney this afternoon on her last flight to the Arizona Boneyard, but on the way drew a QANTAS kangaroo logo in the sky... S Incredibly awesome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainMackayDall Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 19 minutes ago, Jeff said: Correct me if I'm on the wrong path here..... this whole thing is kind of a double edged sword....................when the 'Grettas' of the world are so concerned about 'stuff'..............I get the economics of retiring the BIG birds, due to low ridership ( or so the airlines say) I sure don't see it when I look at Flight Tracker, but I digress..... and cost of operating such large birds, BUT, to me at least, it seems air travel is getting much busier in this world, and that would translate to ..... having to have and maintain smaller aircraft, but MORE of them to attain the same ridership that some of the larger aircraft can accommodate, plus if there are MORE of the smaller aircraft, that , even to me would translate to more crowed, skies, more of the crowding at airports ( tarmac end of things ) , more service vehicles, more... dare I say it... carbon , etc...... some how I'm not sure which is the better way to go.... Oh don't get me wrong, I kind of thought the A 380 was a little bit over the top, size wise , but amazing technology..... I'm just not sure if smaller and more of them is the whole answer, it must be very complicated in the board rooms...... now does this mean airline tickets will spike in price to help pay for the huge investments sitting unused in the desert, at................ 'Honest Ernie's Used Airplanes.................. come on down we have a deal for you' ............ Cool name eh Ernie?? My thoughts would be to defend those big planes, but only if we all still has such a rosy and growing tourist industry, especially the one that I knew between Europe and Asia. But yes, smaller or mid sized twin efficient by pass turbine craft are much more flexible, and probably the future, as in our new dreamliner route from Perth to London. As for Greta, please don't dismiss her. If you know anything of our past geology and climate, and the fact we have added more carbon into the atmosphere between the 1980's and today than of all the past Industrial revolution. Then we are on track to some change. Covid is just a trial run to get us used to a new normal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 I love the big ones too, the 747 is so iconic..... I just don't particularly care for Gretta's way of doing business...... I understand and get it, but.................... anyway, sad to see the 747 go away, one thing that never crossed my mind.... it will 'always' be there.... always has been... I guess that's how us humans think.......... at least this human... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaS Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 I really don't know much about jetliners. If A380 and 747 are retired, what is left that can do the long hauls across the Pacific? And I'll tell ya one thing... riding jump seats from Hawaii to Okinawa in a C-141... is not my definition of a good time! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber_County Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Done ten’s of thousand miles on BA 747’s........Talk about change, no more business travel, no more 747’s and probably no job in a very short while..........can we restart this year........please.........crlt/ alt/ del.......... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainMackayDall Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Ever wondered what pilots were doing when they did a walk around on the tarmac before each flight? Here is a 747 walk around done just before she went to the desert for retirement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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