DougN Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 As my other build is nearing the end, and the "quick build" P-26 turned out to be anything but thanks to the awful, inaccurate Yellow Wings decals, I surveyed the stash to see what I wanted to build next. The Tamiya Spit IX almost won, but with so many parts it did not look like it was going to be quick at all. So, being winter time, my eyes were drawn to this kit: Having generally good things about the kit, and since there are a couple slackers here who started builds, but have yet to finish them I decided to build this one. I used to think Luftwaffe colors were a mess, but after researching the colors for my Yak 1b, and now starting to research colors for this bird, I can only say that Russian VVS colors have to be the biggest mess. I decided to get started as I usually do, and put together the cockpit sub-assemblies and paint them black: I will be building this kit OOB, with the exception of a Quickboost seat and exhausts. I thought about the Aires cockpit, as it is more accurate, but in the end decided the kit parts will be good enough for me. I modified the kit gunsight slightly, and drilled out the optical part so I can add an MV lens for a better look. The kit clear part is pretty rough on one side, so I will cut a piece of acetate to shape and use that instead: After reading through the good info on Massimo's (and other) sites, I think I am pretty close to getting the colors I want to use for the interior nailed down. Stay tuned for more later. Thanks for looking! Comments/critique/questions always welcome. Doug 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_ Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I have meant to buy this kit for a while, as you say it gets good reviews... Look forward to progress.. Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Looks good, I will follow this one with interest as I have just retrieved the same kit from the loft, bought a quickboost seat and exhausts and copied the Mig-3 build thread over on Massimo's site, especially all the cockpit colours, plus I've also got the Montex paint mask set as well. Spooky Cheers Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators JeroenPeters Posted January 17, 2014 Administrators Share Posted January 17, 2014 Hi Doug, It sure is a sweet kit from the box.... Doesn't need much at all. Love to see what you'll do with this. Cheers, Jeroen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rieser Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Hello Doug. Looking forward to your exploits with this one. Cheers, Ralph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougN Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 Thanks for all the interest in this one, I hope don't disappoint you all! After researching cockpit colors, there seems to be several options. Evidence can be found to support an all light blue cockpit, all interior gray cockpit, as well as a mix of grey and green (and a restoration was also done in these colors). I decided to go with the most colorful option, and painted the sidewalls interior grey, the framing, seat back, rudder pedals and rear deck green, and added a aluminum seat pan as recommended. I'm happy with the result: I couldn't resist dry fitting it all together to get an idea of what it will look like when I get it all installed: Thanks for looking! Comments/critique/questions always welcomed. Doug 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) оhо hо... ENGLISH TRANSLATION BY ADMIN "I was lecturing on the site factory specifications to the MiG-3 It was never by color variations in the cockpit! Was a strict standard. It is not necessary to invent the fact that you can learn. And with all the belts are not as done. If you want I can lay out and once more the book and photos of real prototypes" Edited January 21, 2014 by Johann Translated 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators James H Posted January 20, 2014 Administrators Share Posted January 20, 2014 Thanks for sharing this one Doug. I've always found this an interesting subject, and a tempting kit, so really liking what you're doing with here. The cockpit's a beaut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Sometimes tearing at Russian) Again, I apologize. If colleagues are actually wondering what can show a couple of pictures in order to protect it from further errors. By the way looking ahead not erred in binding color glass that make 98% of the modelers on the front of it is not! plexiglass sheets just overlap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 1 Mounting straps (no options!) 2 Correct color cockpit. 3 Sometimes you need a little attention, the truth is somewhere near)) 4 A very common mistake godga think that at this point the metal frame. 1 2 If you look closely at the museum that errors can also be something that you would see 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougN Posted January 22, 2014 Author Share Posted January 22, 2014 Johann, thanks for posting the info/photos. I should clarify that my goal with this kit is not 100% color accuracy. I patterned my cockpit colors off of the ones seen in the crashed photo (4th one down) and what can be seen in "blue 8" (5th one down). I admit the colors might not be exactly the correct shade, but they are close enough for my purposes. I have spent several hours on Massimo's VVS site researching the aircraft (and did the same for my Yak 1b when I built that). That being said, I appreciate, and encourage you, to post any relevant information for this aircraft. I tend to search for previous builds before I start a new kit, so having the info here is a good thing so that anyone looking at this build thread in the future can make up their own minds as to what they want to do when they build there own kit. Often people are afraid to point out any inaccuracies in a build for fear of insulting the builder, and then those inaccuracies end up being replicated by other modelers looking at that build for information. So again, I encourage everyone to post and discuss freely in this (and any of my) WIP thread Ok, on to the modelling! I've been working on the less exciting parts of the build. One area I felt was worth improving was the control surfaces. All of them have what I consider to be a pretty heavy fabric texture, and look like they are stamped metal instead of fabric covered: I started to correct this by first spraying a very, very heavy coat of Mr. Surfacter 1200 on all the control surfaces: After drying for a few days, I started sanding them back down, finishing off with some steel wool: I'll work on them a little more to finish them off after I assemble them into their finished parts. I also glued the fuselage halves together. Fit was great, with the exception of a small area at the bottom near the wing attachment point, where I think one part was warped in a bit (since everywhere else fit great). I put some Mr. Surfacer 500 on the area and started smoothing it out. However, when I was about finished, I realized that I had wasted my time as that area is actually covered up by the radiator fairing!! Oh well... That's it for now. Doug 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougN Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 Disaster has struck!! As shown in the photos Johann posted above, the windscreen does not have any framework, other than that going around the outside. So I was sanding it to reduce/remove the frame and it snapped in half. Unfortunately, it did not snap on the frame line, and is not repairable, so I guess this build will not get finished until I can find a replacement... Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Disaster has struck!! As shown in the photos Johann posted above, the windscreen does not have any framework, other than that going around the outside. So I was sanding it to reduce/remove the frame and it snapped in half. Unfortunately, it did not snap on the frame line, and is not repairable, so I guess this build will not get finished until I can find a replacement... Doug I had a similar thing happen to me with an AZUR MS406 what I did was to cut out the front "pane" and replace it with some clear sheet, not perfect but it saved the work that I had already put into the build, it might work on yours and give a more frameless appearance as a bonus. here's what I did. http://forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php?showtopic=47465&page=2 Cheers Dennis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingco57 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Perhaps you can glue it together again. And use it as master to smashform a replacement? Cees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougN Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 Thanks for the suggestions Dennis and Cees. Unfortunately, the mid part has some compound curves that would make it hard to replace. Also, with the windscreen also being part of the fuselage, a vac part would not work well for someone allergic to vac canopies like me It's too bad replacement parts from Trumpy are impossible to get. Looks like I'm going to have to hope the "canopy fairy" will show up with one, or I might need to buy a second kit to get the part. Thanks, Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
florin13 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Thanks for the suggestions Dennis and Cees. Unfortunately, the mid part has some compound curves that would make it hard to replace. Also, with the windscreen also being part of the fuselage, a vac part would not work well for someone allergic to vac canopies like me It's too bad replacement parts from Trumpy are impossible to get. Looks like I'm going to have to hope the "canopy fairy" will show up with one, or I might need to buy a second kit to get the part. Thanks, Doug Hi Doug, It happened the same thing, but was resolved. Look here, at post #29: http://www.cartula.ro/forum/topic/11632-mig-ul-lui-bazu/page__st__40 I might help you to succeed. I have a few spare parts. Florin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougN Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 Thanks for your kind offer Florin, but for now I'm just going to try to get a replacement, or worst case, pick up another kit if I can't get one by the time I need to attach the windscreen Moving on, did some work on the wings. I attached the flaps in the up position, as 99% of photos I looked at had them that way when parked. Eduard does a nice PE set for anyone that wants to put them down. Since the aircraft I am modeling did not have the slats on the wings, I needed to get rid of them. While the slats fit well and look great when they are in the "out" position, they don't fit that well in the "in" position. Some old fashioned putty was applied to blend them into the rest of the wing. I then applied a very heavy coating of Mr Surfacer 1200 with my airbrush, and when dry, sanded it all out That's it for today! Thanks for looking, comments/critique/questions always welcomed!Doug 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougN Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 Another quick update. The kit use PE hinges and rod to attach the control surfaces to the airframe. The PE hinge is designed with a notch in it that slots into a tab on the wing/tail parts to "lock" it in place: As I wanted to be able to attach the control surfaces after assembing the wing and tail parts, I simple cut the hinge off at the front side of the notch, which allows me to add them whenever I want, and still keeps the hinge in place (to fill the slot): I also thought some more about the cockpit, and it seems to be the concensus that the airframe I am building did not have the radios installed. I fabbed up a replacement "tray" from sheet stryrene and some old PE parts I had in the spares bin that looks close to the real thing (sans radios): I put some styrene strip into the slot at the rear of the cockpit, and filled it in: I've still got to paint the new tray and rear fuselage, and will get them installed. After that, it will be time to join the wings and fuselage together. The "canopy fairy" has not shown up with a new canopy, so if anyone has a spare from an abandoned/wrecked build, please let me know That's all for now, thanks for looking! Comments/critique/questions welcomed! Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougN Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 Just a minor update. I painted and installed the sans-radio rear deck in the cockpit: In reading other builds, it seems that some had issues with the forward wing root inserts (A11/A12 for those following along in your programs). So, I decided to install them before adding the upper and lower nose cowls to give me the most flexiblity in that area. The fit was pretty good, I just needed to use a little Mr Surfacer 500 at the front to blend them to the rest of the wing: Now that I've finished up my other (109E) build, I can start moving quicker on this one! Doug 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingco57 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Looking great Doug. Florin, Welcome to LSM. Cheers Cees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
florin13 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Florin, Welcome to LSM. Cheers Cees Thank you Cees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougN Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 Another small update. As I already have more models than I can realistically finish, I try to limit my detailing to things that can be easily seen on the completed model. As my goal is to have my own "mini-museum", the more models I can finish the better The landing light on the leading edge of the wing is represented in the kit by just a recessed area with a clear plastic cover. This would look a bit plain, so I drilled out the recess, and then cut a piece of aluminum tube, which I stuck into the hole: I'll put an MV lens on the end of the tube, and then add the kit clear part to cover it up. I also decided to abandon the kit plastic parts and make the thermal barrel tubes from some aluminum tube as well. I cut and then sanded them at an angle (like on the real aircraft) and attached them in place with superglue: Finally, I decided to add a cross bar at the rear of the cockpit framing to attach the back of the quickboost seat to: That's all for now! Thanks for looking! Doug 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mikester Posted February 24, 2014 Members Share Posted February 24, 2014 Nice work, Doug. Simple tricks like that really go a long way to improving the look of a model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One-Oh-Four Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Very nice, clean build, Doug! I like the barrel sleeves from aluminium! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Great idea doug for the rear of the cockpit! I will have to borrow that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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