DocRob Posted May 15, 2023 Author Share Posted May 15, 2023 20 hours ago, Peterpools said: YES❗ So glad the juices and desire to pick up the Nachtigall again are flowing at high speed. Very nice start on detailing the rear of the panel and once the 'canopy is closed up, the balance of the build will hopefully downhill and picking up speed. I did try a while ago to reach out to Kai by PM but no response. Gaz did say he was in contact with Kai and all is well but that's all I know. Wish he would stop by from time to time and same with Wolf. Thank you Peter, the next steps will show the fate, the Nachtigall will meet. Yesterday, I worked on the canopy and there showed the big mistake I made right to the beginning (I knew about it since then, but wanted to address it when time comes). The holes in the upper canopy half, which take the FUG posts are to far to the rear. Somehow, I measured wrong, when drilling them. There is no way of correcting this, but to hopefully align them as good as possible and to say, the setup is a development from the first B2-N model. Easy to assert, with the sparse documentation of the Nachtigall. Yesterday, I performed some glue testing on the inner back of the clear parts, to avoid fogging. I tested my go to CA and Tamiya plastic glue. Let's see, how this worked. Cheers Rob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterpools Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Rob Fingers crossed the glue test comes out perfectly and go with the story for the FUG posts - way too much awesome work not to finish on such a small error. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocRob Posted May 15, 2023 Author Share Posted May 15, 2023 I managed to get some of the hard stuff done. I'm never to keen about gluing parts into canopies, but here it's a bit more than the odd rearview mirror and it's a mix of materials, plastic, resin and PE. The canopy was bathed in Pledge before masking, a long time ago and my recent glue tests showed, that there is no fogging with my CA and Tamiya cement. I somehow fiddled in the IP and the IP framing, after I installed the base strips for the antler struts. It was not easy to align the parts without smearing glue somewhere on the inside of the canopy, but I think, I got it done. The IP got two shim parts made from styrene, where they meet the canopy for a larger gluing surface. Now I let that dry until tomorrow and then will attach the lower struts of the IP framing and make some touch ups. Cheers Rob 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterpools Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Rob Perfectly done🏆 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocRob Posted May 15, 2023 Author Share Posted May 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, Peterpools said: Perfectly done🏆 Thanks Peter, I hope to close the canopy soon and forever . Where the two canopy halves meet, I will try to use white glue as a filler, let's see, how this works out. Cheers Rob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterpools Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Rob Should work well. I always use Micro Kystal Klear (PVA Glue) and it has never let me down. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaS Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 always a hairy time, Rob... cementing parts to your clear parts... and then attaching them to the model. I have never done a 234 in any scale. I'll be keen to see your results. I don't have much patience for PVA glue to fill, though. I think I'd go with UV gel. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlrwestSiR Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 Nice job on one of the toughest parts of the build. Getting the IP in place cleanly is such a challenge but you've done a great job. You're making me want to do another 234 now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocRob Posted May 16, 2023 Author Share Posted May 16, 2023 5 hours ago, GazzaS said: always a hairy time, Rob... cementing parts to your clear parts... and then attaching them to the model. I have never done a 234 in any scale. I'll be keen to see your results. I don't have much patience for PVA glue to fill, though. I think I'd go with UV gel. As I don't have UV gel, I will use PVA. I have a bottle of relatively thick PVA for woodworks and hope it will work. I need a self leveling solution, because I don't want to sand the clear parts. Cheers Rob 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocRob Posted May 16, 2023 Author Share Posted May 16, 2023 2 hours ago, BlrwestSiR said: Nice job on one of the toughest parts of the build. Getting the IP in place cleanly is such a challenge but you've done a great job. You're making me want to do another 234 now. Two times yes, Carl. Please do another 234, it would be gold in your hands. Even with the difficulties, this build throws at me, I consider building a second Arado, but only a single seater. And yes, it's the toughest part of the build, not made easier with the added night fighter equipment. Cheers Rob 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocRob Posted May 16, 2023 Author Share Posted May 16, 2023 Slowly progressing with the cockpit. After finally gluing in the instrument panels struts, I added the struts for the FUG antennas and hope they are more or less correct aligned. Not an easy job, because the cockpit is slightly tilted to the front and you have only the curved canopy shapes for orientation. I finally made some touchups and let some Pledge run around the drilled holes in the clear cockpit parts. Next will be final masking and then the canopy will be glued in place, first the upper half, then stowing the cables and then the lower half. Cheers Rob 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 Looks good !...harv 👌 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterpools Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 Rob Brilliant work and the masking - first class all the way. My money is riding on you and the work will be perfect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HubertB Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 3 hours ago, harv said: Looks good !...harv 👌 3 hours ago, Peterpools said: Rob Brilliant work and the masking - first class all the way. My money is riding on you and the work will be perfect. What they said … Hubert 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocRob Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 17 hours ago, harv said: Looks good !...harv 👌 16 hours ago, Peterpools said: Brilliant work and the masking - first class all the way. My money is riding on you and the work will be perfect. 13 hours ago, HubertB said: What they said … Thank you Gentlemen, these clear parts are by far the most touched and handled ever in my builds. I hope, I can keep them unharmed with so many things going in and on there. Yesterday, I realized, that my process to add the upper canopy first wouldn't work, because the lower side has trapezoid 'fins' fitting between fuselage and upper canopy. This way, it's impossible to adjust the IP wiring after closing the canopy, bummer. I prepared everything that the wires will bend to shape, while gluing on the upper half of the glasshouse. Cheers Rob 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocRob Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 I took all my guts and glued the canopy shut, first the lower half, followed bey the upper glasshouse. I used Tamiya cement and after the glue had settled, ran Revell Contacta Clear over the seams three times for filling and sealing. The radio operator compartment was closed as well and received the same treatment. Cheers Rob 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlrwestSiR Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Great job there Rob. Arado certainly didn't make it easy for us modelers when they designed the 234 but it really looks stunning when you can pull it off. ZM have announced they're going to do a 234 kit so I might wait for that before I build another. It's not easy to find the Fly kit nowadays. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocRob Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 Thank you Carl, most went on ok but my error from the very firs day of building the Nachtigall shows. The lower antenna posts are in front of the upper ones. I somehow mis measured the holes in the top canopy and there is nothing realistic, I can do about it. In late 2019, when I started the build, I mentioned a possible upcoming AR-234 from ZM, but it hasn't materialized until now. Portfolio wise, the Arado would fit though for ZM. The Fly kits seem to become sparse, like you said. There is Artscale in Czechoslovakia claiming to have the night fighter available. Cheers Rob 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterpools Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Rob Amazing work on the front office and glass. I'm sure ZM's version will be state of the art and well detailed but with all their kits, the over engineering and countless hidden parts has soured me on further purchases - as I still need to finish the 109 and Skyraider. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocRob Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 18 hours ago, Peterpools said: Amazing work on the front office and glass. I'm sure ZM's version will be state of the art and well detailed but with all their kits, the over engineering and countless hidden parts has soured me on further purchases - as I still need to finish the 109 and Skyraider. Thank you Peter, ZM will be more buildable for sure. Detail wise the Fly kit is a mixed bag. The plastic is so-so, but the resin parts for the Cockpits and other areas will be hard to surpass. Cheers Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocRob Posted May 18, 2023 Author Share Posted May 18, 2023 The thing got wings finally and it's tail. Fit is good so far, but a little filling will be needed at the wingroots. The Arado is a big kite and one of the main goals until the finish is not to knock off the protruding FUG antenna posts. She will not be a tail sitter, my glued in weight was sufficient. Cheers Rob 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlrwestSiR Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 A nice milestone. The 234 is a big plane that's for sure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterpools Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Rob Right with Carl and way to go 🏆 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber_County Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Rob, don’t you love it when a plan comes together. Brave and talented to pull that cockpit glazing together….. congratulations 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocRob Posted May 18, 2023 Author Share Posted May 18, 2023 2 hours ago, BlrwestSiR said: A nice milestone. The 234 is a big plane that's for sure. 46 minutes ago, Peterpools said: Right with Carl and way to go 🏆 34 minutes ago, Bomber_County said: Rob, don’t you love it when a plan comes together. Brave and talented to pull that cockpit glazing together….. congratulations Muchas gracias amigos, it's a milestone indeed, with most of the difficult areas of the build addressed. Now it's straight towards painting, but I haven't finally decided which scheme I use. Brown and green like the manual suggested or grey mottled nightfighter scheme. I will wait for the 1ManArmy stencil masks to arrive, as they often include markings for a special plane and decide then. For green and brown, I have a mask set and I somehow like the scheme. @Bomber_County Phil, you forgot to mention luck . Cheers Rob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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