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Ok boys and girls, my next project . Fall 1943, Lt. Erich Hont, 2/JG 11. It's my understanding they used this group as a test bed for various weapons. I will be building it with 20 mm gun pods under wing.

 I did start the A8 pit some years ago. It was the first time chopping up a pit for PE. I think the start was pretty good so I'll be using it. List of AM will come later as I have to find it all. I'm sure I'll have lots of questions so bare with me. A pic of pit I started and a pic of the aircraft I'm shooting for......harv

 

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Oh and between Harv and Ernie with the 190s plus Jeff and Danny with the trucks, I'm constantly searching for kits of subjects I wouldn't normally consider. Even caught myself looking at wooden boats....

You guys are worse than squirrels!!!!:lol:

Carl

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Speaking of Hasegawa FW's:  I've got the old A6/A8...pictured below:

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I'm not impresses with the covers over the inner wing MG 151.s  Is there an aftermarket set for this bird?

 

Gaz

 

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Ok, found most(I think) of my AM. Also I have been comparing the 2 kits I have, the A5 and A8. So far the only difference I can find is the gun troughs in the forward cowling  and gun cover. That's it. All the rest is identical....harv

 

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1 minute ago, GazzaS said:

Speaking of Hasegawa FW's:  I've got the old A6/A8...pictured below:

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I'm not impresses with the covers over the inner wing MG 151.s  Is there an aftermarket set for this bird?

 

Gaz

 

I'm sure you could make most AM work. Sure wheels will work. Maybe Martin knows....harv

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10 hours ago, GazzaS said:

I'm not impressed with the covers over the inner wing MG 151.s  Is there an aftermarket set for this bird?

Aires have an Fw190 inboard cannon set for the Hasegawa kits (2025), which include the wing covers as well as the guns and bays.

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These also have very nice internal details. Aires also include these parts in their Super set for the '190 D.

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11 hours ago, Wumm said:

Aires have an Fw190 inboard cannon set for the Hasegawa kits (2025), which include the wing covers as well as the guns and bays.

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These also have very nice internal details. Aires also include these parts in their Super set for the '190 D.

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S

Thanks for that.

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On 6/18/2020 at 10:17 AM, harv said:

Ok, found most(I think) of my AM. Also I have been comparing the 2 kits I have, the A5 and A8. So far the only difference I can find is the gun troughs in the forward cowling  and gun cover. That's it. All the rest is identical....harv

Some more information on your subject Harv...

410266 was an A5 variant built at AGO Oshersleben factory around June 1943. This was at the end of the production run as AGO very soon switched to the A6 variant. Note the small red circle on the cowling...

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This indicates that this airframe was fitted with injection boost, trialled on the A5/U8 variant which went on to become the G2 Jabo-Rei fighter bomber, which also had the outer wing guns deleted. The early boosted motors had an extra fuel injector (3) spraying C3 fuel directly into both air intakes (8) for short bursts, separate from the fuel already injecting into the cylinders. This became standard on the BMW801 motor later in 1944.IMG_20200620_092039.thumb.jpg.8f03be01261419d7103d04ce6ad4333b.jpg

410266 is pictured in the first week of October 1943. It shows 5 victory bars on the rudder; which places it sometime between Hondt's 5th victory on October 2, and when it was lost on the 8th of that month after ramming B-17F 42-3386 "Marie Helena" during the Bremen raid. It had been fitted with the underwing U12 twin gun setup, which is different from the Eduard gun packs you have unfortunately. These are available from Eagle Editions:

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The ammunition for this system sits inside the wing where the outer wing guns would usually go.

 

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These are probably the main factors in choosing this gun pack on this particular airframe... Already deleted wing guns, and extra boost to counter the added weight and drag of the extra guns. This makes her an A5/U12 variant, officially changed to an R1 from A6 production onwards. Apart from the two development machines, a few of these were distributed to JG 1 and JG 11 towards the end of 1943.

There is also a belief that the yellow tail band would not have been in use before the start of 1944. Eagle Editions show it on their decals, however Eduard on their 1/48 kit have not. It is hard to tell from the one available photo, but I tend to agree with Eduard on this one, as I cannot find any examples of JG 11 yellow bands in 1943. There are a few small changes in hatches etc between the A5 and A8, but we can discuss as your build progresses.

HTH,

S

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That is actually the A5/U11 prototype, W.Nr 151303 'RG+ZA. The U11 was tested with the Mk 103 30mm cannons.

The U12 looked like this...IMG_20200620_110117.thumb.jpg.17a40b017672fdb977bde33c131bffc2.jpg

One of the two test airframes, W.Nr 151813 'BH+CC'. Note the double 20mm  barrels in the pod.

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Weather is hot and humid so no track painting. Started looking at ref pics and instruction and determined that a few panels must go. The bottom one I'm happy with. The side ones, not  so much. Redoing those....harv

 

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