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1 hour ago, Peterpools said:

Kai

Nice start on the paint work and it looks so good. I also bought the book with my order and it's a terrific reference

Keep 'em comin

Peter 

Thank you Peter! 
You‘re right: The foto references in the book are really good. E.g. that the III C the Israelis used had no landing lights attached to the front wheel, the color of the wheel wells (white not silver) and the color of the LG (silver)...

I also bought a set of IsraDecals for my kit and I am curious how they will work. 
 

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Finished detail-painting of the wheel wells yesterday.

The blue/yellow markings on the pipes indicate hydraulic-pipes. And the sequence of the color describes the direction of flow of the hydraulic fluid (which is poisonous and runs through the pipes with a pressure of more than 200 bar (2900 lbs/ sq in) !)

Next step to follow will be the weathering of the parts shown.

 

 

 

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16 hours ago, Peterpools said:

Kai

Wheel well details look mighty good. I’m courteous how their decals will look and work but if they have the color scheme you want - it’s the way to go

Ke ‘em comin

Peter

Thank you for your feedback Peter! 

You are right: the decals were the only option. But they look nice and we know how to test them. 

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1 hour ago, DocRob said:

The tubing is looking great Kai and thanks for the info bit about the flow directions.

Cheers Rob

Thanks for your feedback Rob! 

I only know this because I worked on real aircraft long time ago when I was in the German Air Force. 

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9 hours ago, DocRob said:

The tubing is looking great Kai and thanks for the info bit about the flow directions.

Cheers Rob

I also learned something. Had never seen it, nor read about it.

And your job is outstanding :thumbsup2: !

Hubert

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47 minutes ago, HubertB said:

I also learned something. Had never seen it, nor read about it.

And your job is outstanding :thumbsup2: !

Hubert

Thanks for your feedback Hubert!

It‘s one of the senses of such a forum to exchange as much information as possible and learn about new modeling-techniques from the other members.

And this is what I like most in this forum. 
I learned so many things since I joined.

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Weathered all the wheel-well parts yesterday. Weathering was done with oil colors, since they offer a vide variety of tones. Needed half a package of cotton-swabs...


Taking into account the white base color and the surrounding in Israel I choose not to use a too dark color because black causes too much contrast and doesn’t look realistic.

 Now I can start the assembly of some of the components and give it a flat varnish and some oil-stains.

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51 minutes ago, GazzaS said:

Nice work, Kai!  Those oils bring the shapes into nice relief!

I'm curious, do you press the parts into the styrofoam, or attach them some other way?

Thank you Gaz!

This is how I use the styrofoam:

I take a match, put some blue tech or similar on it and onto this the part.

I can hold the part for painting at the match and when finished stick it into the styrofoam for drying.

Easy method and solves some painting topics.

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Exactly the right decision, to stay away from black for weathering. The way you did it, it remarkably pops and brings everything to live.
For removing oil colours, I use cotton swabs only on a few occasions. I prefer a flat midsized brush, which has a good holding capacity for paint and thinner. This makes the oil effects more controllable, as you can play with the amount of thinner and the dampness of the brush. As a side effect there is less plastic trash, for which some sea turtles will be thankful.

Cheers Rob

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1 hour ago, DocRob said:

Exactly the right decision, to stay away from black for weathering. The way you did it, it remarkably pops and brings everything to live.
For removing oil colours, I use cotton swabs only on a few occasions. I prefer a flat midsized brush, which has a good holding capacity for paint and thinner. This makes the oil effects more controllable, as you can play with the amount of thinner and the dampness of the brush. As a side effect there is less plastic trash, for which some sea turtles will be thankful.

Cheers Rob

Thanks Rob!

Also thanks for the tip! That’s a good idea I will try! I already learned a lot in this forum! 


BTW: We always buy cotton-swabs with paper-sticks to protect the environ- ment...;)

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On 3/27/2021 at 1:52 PM, Kaireckstadt said:

Thanks for your feedback Rob! 

I only know this because I worked on real aircraft long time ago when I was in the German Air Force. 

I just found some beautiful pictures showing the blue-yellow markings on the hydraulic pipes. And there are lots to be seen! These are the wheel wells of a F-104G. But the markings are the same on most military aircraft due to cross-servicing capability,  meaning a British mechanic should also be able to turn around a German Tornado visiting their Squadron.

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1 hour ago, HubertB said:

Whilst we are at the web-training phase, what is the direction of the fluid flow ? Blue to yellow, or yellow to blue ?

Hubert

Sorry Hubert, I didn’t want to initiate a web-training here. Only thought it would be of interest to the modelers here because it may be a detail to add to the pipes.

To your question: The flow-direction is from yellow to blue. See attached picture. 
And finally for all who are interested the markings for other fluids in the aircraft.

With this I close the web-training, Hubert. Back to modeling now! 

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Certainly no criticism from me. I actually enjoy getting this kind of information. As far as I am concerned, you carry on with all the web training you want ;) I’ll be a studious pupil.

Hubert

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15 hours ago, Kaireckstadt said:

But the markings are the same on most military aircraft due to cross-servicing capability

Good to know, otherways, it would lead to panicked outcries like: 'I said flaps down, not up...' :D. Than god for international standards.

Cheers Rob

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Has anyone built a 1/32 RAAF Mirage III?

Just chasing these google leads

Built in Australia as a Mirage IIIO(F) and delivered to the RAAF on 1 Aug 1966. Served with 75 Sqn at Butterworth, Malaysia, then 77 Sqn whose 'Grumpy Monkey' Korean Lion markings it presently wears. Retired with 4015 hours Oct 1987 to RAAF School of Technical Training, Wagga Wagga. Became part of the Museum collection at Wangaratta, then to a private owner at Essendon for restoration to fly. In 2015 to HARS for restoration to taxying condition. Being positioned here for static display at WOI 16.
and

http://www.grubbyfingersshop.com/walkaround_galleries/Dassault Mirage IIID Walkaround A3-102 RAAF Fighter World 2014/content/index.html

Did Australia ever build them locally under licence ?

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3 hours ago, IainMackayDall said:

Has anyone built a 1/32 RAAF Mirage III?

Just chasing these google leads

Built in Australia as a Mirage IIIO(F) and delivered to the RAAF on 1 Aug 1966. Served with 75 Sqn at Butterworth, Malaysia, then 77 Sqn whose 'Grumpy Monkey' Korean Lion markings it presently wears. Retired with 4015 hours Oct 1987 to RAAF School of Technical Training, Wagga Wagga. Became part of the Museum collection at Wangaratta, then to a private owner at Essendon for restoration to fly. In 2015 to HARS for restoration to taxying condition. Being positioned here for static display at WOI 16.
and

http://www.grubbyfingersshop.com/walkaround_galleries/Dassault Mirage IIID Walkaround A3-102 RAAF Fighter World 2014/content/index.html

Did Australia ever build them locally under licence ?

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Dassault Mirage IIID Walkaround A3-102 RAAF Fighter World 2014 15 GraemeMolineux.jpg:

The Australian Mirage III O were build in License. You can find more information here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault_Mirage_III
 

I haven’t build one in 1/32, but these guys did:

http://www.arcair.com/Gal6/5801-5900/gal5888-MirageIII-Platt/00.shtm
 

http://www.arcair.com/Gal12/11701-11800/gal11794-Mirage-Param/00.shtm

Hope this helps a little.

Cheers

Kai

 

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Assembled the wheel wells yesterday. And typical Italeri: Some fit-problems with the front bay. Some pipes were appr. 1 mm too short and the fit of the upper pipes had to be improved. 
Also the backplate didn’t fit well. Had to add sheet to close the gap.

The assembly of the main gear wells went straightforward until I noticed that I had made a mistake when painting the blue-yellow markings on the single parts: I didn’t take into account that all markings on one pipe needed the same sequence of colors. The result was that I had pipes which had markings with both sequences blue-yellow and yellow-blue. So I had to redo a lot of markings on the pipes. I love painting these markings now!

The fit of the wells to the fuselage-parts is really good. No extra work expected here.

Next thing will be the assembly of these parts to the fuselage and the preparation of the jet-engine.

What is the most important thing when you build an Italeri-kit?

Test-fitting, test-fitting and once again test-fitting...

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