Bomber_County Posted December 9, 2021 Author Share Posted December 9, 2021 On 12/7/2021 at 2:13 PM, Drifter said: Well, this thread has convinced me. I have ordered a ICM JU-88. Should get here by end of Jan 2022. Which version, I’m really impressed with ICM …… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber_County Posted December 9, 2021 Author Share Posted December 9, 2021 33 minutes ago, Peterpools said: of course wishing you luck with the Micro Mask - one tough job for sure. I’ve never masked a canopy with it mother then small fill in areas and it does grip as if it was ‘nailed’ in place. 🤞 It worked well, I thinned it down with a little water so you can paint it on with a fine brush. Some of the framing is very fine but on the whole a little touch up and it will be sorted. I sharpened a cocktail stick and the micro mask comes off a treat……. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterpools Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Phil Nice going - glad it worked out so well. Always a treat to be able to add a new technique to the tool chest. Keep 'em comin Peter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber_County Posted December 9, 2021 Author Share Posted December 9, 2021 6 hours ago, Peterpools said: Nice going - glad it worked out so well. Always a treat to be able to add a new technique to the tool chest. Make sure you thin it down…… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterpools Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Phil Got ya! Shall do. Keep ‘em comin Peter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaS Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Good luck on the masking, Phil! I have micromask, but I haven't tried it this way, yet. I can't paint worth a damn, anyway. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber_County Posted December 13, 2021 Author Share Posted December 13, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 9:34 PM, GazzaS said: Good luck on the masking, Phil! I have micromask, but I haven't tried it this way, yet. I can't paint worth a damn, anyway. Neither can I Gaz, so the results are in using Micromask. Flat fuselage glazing perfect, on 1/48 canopies mixed results. The frames are so tiny it’s difficult to control the micromask however thin you water it down. It would be fine on 32nd canopies but 48th results are inconclusive. Hand paint and cocktail stick after may have to suffice…. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GusMac Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 As an alternative to Micromask can I suggest you try Incredible White Mask from Grafix. I tried it after it was recommended by Matt McDougall and it's a lot less 'clingy' than Micromask and comes off very cleanly with no residues. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drifter Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 On 12/9/2021 at 3:46 PM, Bomber_County said: Which version, I’m really impressed with ICM …… I ordered a JU88C-6. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber_County Posted December 14, 2021 Author Share Posted December 14, 2021 7 hours ago, Drifter said: I ordered a JU88C-6. Nice, love the camo on this…. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterpools Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Guys I have to admit, I always try and find a laser cut mask set from Eduard or other companies - makes life so much easier, especially for my old eyes. Keep 'em comin Peter 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaS Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 On 12/13/2021 at 11:55 PM, Bomber_County said: Neither can I Gaz, so the results are in using Micromask. Flat fuselage glazing perfect, on 1/48 canopies mixed results. The frames are so tiny it’s difficult to control the micromask however thin you water it down. It would be fine on 32nd canopies but 48th results are inconclusive. Hand paint and cocktail stick after may have to suffice…. I just tried this. But the surface tension was giving me the shits. So, I added a drop of liquid dish soap to my thinned micromask and Bam!... it seemed work like a charm, not retreating from corners and leaving a thin, uniform coating on the painted panels. ... too bad I don;t have time to paint and peel tonight. Pending the results, this could be my new favorite way to mask canopies. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber_County Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share Posted December 16, 2021 26 minutes ago, GazzaS said: I just tried this. But the surface tension was giving me the shits. So, I added a drop of liquid dish soap to my thinned micromask and Bam!... it seemed work like a charm, not retreating from corners and leaving a thin, uniform coating on the painted panels. ... too bad I don;t have time to paint and peel tonight. Pending the results, this could be my new favorite way to mask canopies. Excellent Gaz, didn’t think about liquid soap, I’ll give it a go, I’m now cocktail sticking the canopies I had done earlier….let me know? What scale are the canopies? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaS Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 34 minutes ago, Bomber_County said: Excellent Gaz, didn’t think about liquid soap, I’ll give it a go, I’m now cocktail sticking the canopies I had done earlier….let me know? What scale are the canopies? I'm doing a 1/48 Me-110. here is a bonus... the masking comes off with masking tape... I discovered this by accident and had to repaint 4 frames. heh... hopefully it doesn't blow off in a breeze. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber_County Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share Posted December 16, 2021 Brilliant…… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterpools Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 On 12/16/2021 at 2:53 AM, GazzaS said: I just tried this. But the surface tension was giving me the shits. So, I added a drop of liquid dish soap to my thinned micromask and Bam!... it seemed work like a charm, not retreating from corners and leaving a thin, uniform coating on the painted panels. ... too bad I don;t have time to paint and peel tonight. Pending the results, this could be my new favorite way to mask canopies. Gaz Great idea - going to give it a try. Keep 'em comin Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaS Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 Well, If nothing else, the results show I'll need to do touch up. Even though the mask came off quite easily, (but I needed more than tape) there was still some easy cleanup to do with a toothpick. One problem is the weak color of the diluted micromask. There are some places where I may have caused tidal marks that were invisible even with me using glasses and a visor. I didn't thin it that much.... probably 70/30 mask to water.... plus a drop of dish soap in less than 1/2 a teaspoon total volume. So I will have to touch up a lot of frame edges. Which would be ok if I had the same color available to brush as I did to spray. The paints used: For the undercoat/interior I used a Tamiya shade heavily thinned with Mr Color self levelling thinners. The top, green color is MRP RLM 71 mixed with a little MRP USN white. Anyway... Still beats spending 3 hours with tape with no guarantee of perfection, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterpools Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 Gaz Agreed ... still a lot of cleanup and touch up work. I’m thinking maybe a combination of Micro Mask and thin Tamiya tape. I use an Infinity East Cutting Type A 100% of the time when masking and using Tamiya tape and can cut strips as narrow as .4 mm and now only buy one width Tamiya tape and cut the exact width I need. My thought is to use the Micro Mask in the curved corners and the strips for the straight sides. Keep ‘em comin Peter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber_County Posted December 18, 2021 Author Share Posted December 18, 2021 I’m going to have to have a rethink on these canopies…….sending me insane……….I have one more thought then I’m going to strip them completely, dip them and start again. I have vowed to finish this before I start anything else…I study them under a magnifying glass and then tell myself crap crap crap…. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocRob Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 I don't like using liquid mask for canopy masking. Some react with Future dipped clear plastic over time. If there is a Kabuki set available, I will buy one but not the vinyl stuff, which shrinks and doesn't follow the contours good enough. If there are no Kabuki sets available or no money to buy, I cut masks with cutting templates, if the framing isn't protruding well, If it does, I cut Kabuki tape directly onto the canopy, very carefully with a sharp blade. You see, I'm Kabuki addicted, it's precise, no color is running under, when pressed on with a wooden toothpick and no side effects with Futurized canopies. Cheers Rob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaS Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 My usual technique is to lay a piece of uncut tape over the framed area in question. Then I run a very sharp pencil to trace the edge. Peel off the tape and stick it to the smooth underside of a tea saucer. Then I cut along the lines with an exacto and peel and place. Sometimes the fit it perfect. Sometimes not. I add fillets here and there when required. Still takes time... and more time.... I guess there is really no escape. I don't really like trimming the tape while it's attached to the clear parts. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber_County Posted December 18, 2021 Author Share Posted December 18, 2021 Thanks Gaz good idea, Canopies and knives do not mix in my experience, I knew this bit was going to tricky….perseverance….. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drifter Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 I just masked the canopies on a 1/48 Zero uisng Tamya tape and a N0. 11 blade. Why, of why did I not just order an Eduard or equivalent mask set. Looking at the JU-88 on the way, there is no way I will do the canopies without a masking set. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterpools Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Drifter, absolutely agree - the best way for sure. Keep 'em comin Peter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber_County Posted December 19, 2021 Author Share Posted December 19, 2021 Had a brief look, PMasks out of Poland do the -11 and Montex do the -5/6 but none are available in the UK………perhaps you guys were right, I admit it would be a lot easier…… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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