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HpH de Havilland Hornet – Sea Hornet F Mk22 TT202


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Insane, did you get the timing right for the ignition?

Cees

 

..bit peeved actually as the the ignition leads I made don't fit Cees :hsmack:  and not only that, they are buried under and behind the exhaust pipes... so, never mind I can either rob the bits back, or use them in other places around the engine..

 

anyways ladies..

 

..bit more done before we leave for the US for Christmas..

 

..I started by making the ignition conduit and just added the ignition leads to this... carefully drilled the holes at an angle & threaded lead wire into them...

 

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..also cast all the exhaust pipes for one side of the merlin, and the same side for the nacelle that won't have an exposed engine...these were sprayed with alclad and then a mix made up to discolour the pipe tips..

 

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..a bit of sooty weathering and I dry fitted them to the cylinder head - as you can see the ignition wires are now barely visible...

 

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..the weld beads became visible with some careful painting...

 

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..and dry fitted to the engine...

 

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..pretty happy how they turned out, but then they do represent about 8 hours at the bench...

 

..just need to repeat the whole process to make the pipes for the other cylinder bank - jeesh will do that when I am back after New Year

 

thats it for now my friends..

 

TTFN

Peter

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  • 3 weeks later...

evening all and Happy New Year :)

 

so... it's been a good 3 weeks away from the bench what with spending the holidays in the US - wild weather too, 80 degrees one day 40 degrees the next...still a great time had by all but now I am back I need to re-orientate myself with what I was doing on the Hornet.... :hsmack:

 

..I was trying to work out how to do the cockpit as HpH have not chosen the traditional route - you have to assemble the fuselage sides, put the cockpit in from the top and slide the wings through the slot in the middle...

 

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..this doesn't suit what I want to do as I have lots of detail to add to the cockpit so want full and easy access to it in both fuselage halves before assembly - I needed to work out if I can insert the wings afterwards from each side and whether the geometry stacks up..

 

..first a look at the wings taped up with the spar parts - these ensure correct dihedral so I will have to watch out in the future when I get to that..

 

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...this is how it should be assembled...

 

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..the spar position is where it should be in real life when slipped through the fuselage...

 

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..I mocked up where the headrest goes - this is not a full bulkhead, it is half the depth of the fuselage and sort of hangs in the air so the cockpit is all pretty open around the seat... (this is not how HpH have it though...)

 

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...I added a floor and now I can see how it all goes together I will probably put false walls on the fuselage halves covering the front of the wing slots so I can assemble the fuselage in two halves - then I can insert the wings separately later...(much later...)

 

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...I see lots of complicated cockpit scratchbuilding in my future and apologise in advance to anyone tuning in for an HpH Hornet build :ph34r:

 

all the best everyone..

 

TTFN

Peter

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Stunning work :)  do you have a scheme in mind for this?

Hi Mal - thanks for stopping by

 

yes - have chosen TT202

 

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I chose this one as there are a series of colour pictures taken on an air-to-air sortie on the South Coast with de Havilland test pilot Pat Fillingham at the controls. I like the simplicity of the scheme and the fact that the surface finish even on an all silver aircraft has many hues and tones.

 

will be needing roundels & serial masks in about two years time :lol:

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I'm loving this. How is that wing to fuse joint? Does it run gapless all the way around? With that construction sequence they suggest, I can't see how it would?

 

 

Hi Jim - I have only roughly cut out the parts so it wouldn't be fair to say its crap, but at the mo it looks like it will need a bit (lot?) of work... it's going to be a long while before I find out...    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :wtf:

 

..been enjoying myself with a dremel and bits of plastic card lately - I needed to add cockpit walls, so thinned all the interior walls with a burr and sandpaper and marked out where the floor sits against the fuselage halves...

 

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...then I was ready to separate the fuselage halves after earlier adding the rear cockpit area to correct the kit shape - used one of Radu's micro saws for a super clean cut..

 

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..soon I had the two halves again and was checking how thick the canopy sills would be after adding the skin of the walls. I found the answer was too thick...

 

While I was checking reference pictures, I also found the cockpit sill is actually outside the fuselage on the the canopy rails that run all the way along the outside edges of the cockpit and down the fuselage

 

..this meant the cockpit sills needed lowering so I chopped out a bit more of the fuselage...

 

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..here a brass strip shows how the rail is on the outside of the fuselage, and how the internal sill is lowered to the bottom of the rail as on the real aircraft...

 

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...after a few hours of fiddling about with templates, and a failed attempt to make the walls by plunge moulding, I finally had the shapes I wanted. I am in huge debt to David Collins again for help figuring out the shapes & proportions - particularly the curved spar cover area..

 

..they were CA'd to the fuselage, very carefully so as not to crack or distort the top of the fuselage halves which by now were pretty thin...

 

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..lots of dry fitting to make sure everything checks out...

 

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..here you can see how the side walls run up to the spar and how much they cover the hole where the kit wing would slot through...

 

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..I am hoping I can just slot the wings in later on - will have to figure out how...

 

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..lastly, I made a template to start making the rear deck that covers the spar - this will later have the ammo bins etc..

 

..essentially this is the layout of the internal structure of a Hornet cockpit - the kit has a full bulkhead where the seat goes which is not right so I would have had to change this area anyway...

 

..it's now a blank canvas where I expect to spend may happy months fiddling about - tune in if you can stay awake... <_<

 

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..until next time folks

 

TTFN

Peter

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  • 4 months later...

six months!

 

so it's been six months....I got all nostalgic recently and re-read my thread on this beautiful bird, remembering the effort & trials & tribulations of building & researching an aircraft that doesn't exist anymore.. and also the loooong wait to see such a superb subject in 1/32 finally being realised..

 

..a crisis of conscience came over me - surely it must be possible to build more than one model at the same time (loosely)?

 

Distractions like getting the 1/24 Typhoon set done (it's in the hands of the printers now..) and the World Cup are ebbing away following England's dismal exit, I now feel some Hornet mojo coming back...

 

so, back in the saddle and straight into the action..

 

..I started by building out the very basic floor structure and rear cockpit base - I added some temporary bracing so I can work this area without it collapsing..

 

..this is just plastruct tacked with CA..

 

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..I now have a floor - I sketched out where the cockpit walls are and the rear canopy opening extends to....

 

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..you can see from this lovely image of TT202 the ammo bins behind the pilot - the lids look like wood so may do with some uschi decal when the time comes..

 

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..and a closer look from a still I screen grabbed off youtube..

 

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..the kit parts are these two resin boxes that are topped with some nice PE lids - I decided they needed replacing as they are not the right size or shape - the profiles are card walls I will use to build them up..

 

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..soon had the basic shapes - you can see the size difference...

 

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..detailed them with brass - they are hoppers that go through the rear floor to the cannons, but we need only see this much of them..

 

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...and dry fitted in the airframe - will make the lids up next...

 

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..good to be back on this one...

 

TTFN

 

Peter

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thanks Cees :)

 

..just a little bit done today either side of a lovely pub lunch in the sun...

 

..there is a hydraulic fluid tank behind the pilot that can just be seen here. This is not a pic from an armed Hornet, so the ammo boxes are missing, but gives some useful details..

 

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..the kit has it represented as a pressurised bottle with the fill & vent caps on the top...

 

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..I decided to model it as per the references I have, which is a different size/shape, so got a bit of resin pouring stub and started to shape it...

 

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..I then removed a section from the top and grafted in a little plunge moulded bowl to represent the depressed vent cap area  - I like to have a handle to work things so started making the tank while still a part of the stub...

 

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..started to add the weld seams for the pressed parts from plastic strip & fuse wire..

 

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..finished it with brass details & straps...

 

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..and dry fitted in the airframe...

 

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..still loads more to do, but getting there one part at a time!

 

...until next time my friends..

 

TTFN
Peter

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thanks both & good evening :)

 

...so, first DH Hornet thing to talk about was meeting Eric 'Winkle' Brown the test pilot at Duxford Flying Legends last weekend..... yes, that 'Winkle' Brown the aviation great that has had such an amazing life - from test flying, first carrier landing in a jet, to interviewing all the Nuremberg Nazi's after the war for the FAA - I asked him what the Hornet was like to fly - he said 'massively over-powered, and an absolute joy to fly' - a moment I will never forget - words from the great man himself.

 

..back at the build, and newly inspired, I set about the canopy rails as the next thing to be done..

 

..they are dead straight, run along the outside of the fuselage and are entirely parallel along their length, slotted at the top face...here are TT202's

 

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..I had removed the kit rails to work on the nose, and wanted to make them more scale - I replaced with fine brass 'U' channel...

 

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..there is a fairing at the front as they stand proud of the fuselage and need a rounded outer former I will add later...

 

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..I got some white tack to hold the bits I have made so far loosely into place to see how and if it all hangs together..

 

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..and added a mock-up canopy - I was particularly interested to see how the modified nose profile was coming along...

 

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...hopefully going the right way?

 

..until next time my friends..

 

Peter

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