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Clear the Bench! Zoukei Moura Bf-109G14 Non-Hartmann Build


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Welcome back guys...

...  I present you with another mojo-sapping irritant.

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Yes, widening the vertical fin also makes the fit of the rudder balance wrong.

So, I added a shim after sawing through the long-since-dried glue joint.

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This took care of the port side shelf...  mostly.

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But now I have some weird geometry happening.

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Most of us know that one side of the rudder should be mostly flat.   with the port side having an arc to make up for the torque caused by the rotation of the engine and propeller.

So...  If I had my druthers...   and another un-touched rudder to assemble...   instead of inserting two rounded, and tapered bits of sprue.  I would have made a single piece that was flat on one side in hopes of keeping the starboard side of the vertical fin flat.

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The thought of tearing the vertical fin in half fills me with dread.  So, I'm just going to live with it.

But anyway...   you are forewarned.

...and another fly in the ointment...   All of the external surfaces have a fine texture.  I mention this because I am going to used HGW rivets.  I haven't use HGW transfers in quite a while (2-4 years).  But I do remember that they only want to stick to a very smooth (faultless) surface.  Are they any different, now?

 

Good luck, fellow G-14 builders....

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Gaz

Egad, the negative aspects keep popping up their heads. I'm right with you and it certainly seems as if compromise is going to be needed to complete the kit. For me, it's going to be a lot easier as my knowledge of 109's is less then average and I wouldn't know enough to question details on or missing from the kit. I think I can hear your stomach tightening up into a knot!

 

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Welcome back, friends.  More fun and more...  other stuff.

Because the original kit is a G6, you have to swap to the N sprue to get the correct panel for the FuG 18 antenna mount.  Note the clear part.  I painted the backside of the clear part RLM 02.  I will have to mask the other side, later.

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Unlike the first wing, I ended up needing a shim and had a small gap. I will fill the small gap, later.  I don't know if the shim would have been required with the original G6 panel.  Notice the two positions of the leading-edge slats.  They are meant to be assembled so they can be positioned open-or closed.  But if you position them closed, some sanding will be required as the slat doesn't exactly match the profile of the wing.

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The upper side of the wings look serviceable.

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The position of the LG legs is non-negotiable.  They almost lock into place, becoming wobbly if not correctly placed.  I used BMF on the oleos.

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Added the engine.  Just like the lg struts...   fitment is non-negotiable.

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Ventral view.

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Next come two centerline belly panels.  Fitting them left a question as to whether one might be too far forward or too far back...  I really don't like ambiguity. 

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Then the wings.  Here is where it started to go belly up...

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I snapped the next two pictures before I knew I was in trouble.  Everything looks alright.  But I will end up ripping the wings off to push them in a little further after removing internal parts.

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This is the first kit I have ever built with separate wing root stubs.  There are two sets for the front, and a single set for the dorsal.  For the life of me, I could see no difference in the optional parts.  When I added the forward wing root stubs, I could see that both wings were approximately 1/2 mm too far out.  So, off came the wings...   and it wasn't pretty as the glue had completely set.

So...  

After letting the new wing arrangement set overnight, I added the dorsal wing root and a couple of shims... 

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Trimming them down should be fun.  Notice how prominent the forward fairings are at the wing leading edge.  I don't think I can leave them like that.

 

And finally, here is a view of the bottom.

The small gaps I will fill with PPP.  The larger gap, I will fill with black CA.

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I'll use PPP on the front gap, and then 60% of it should be covered by the ETC rack.

 

Thanks for looking.  Thoughts and comments appreciated.

 

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23 minutes ago, BlrwestSiR said:

Yikes, quite a bit of finessing there. 

Looks like it's one of those kits where if you're slightly off in one spot, it just magnifies things down the road. The question is figuring out where the first issue propped up. 

Exactly.  I fear the cowling.

11 minutes ago, Martinnfb said:

There is the thing about ZM that I am constantly tipping over. The engineering is overwhelming and brilliant at the same time, but they are missing out, on the Tamiya finesse.  Blessing and a curse at the same time. 

It's just too much detail and having to fumble my way forward depending on the instructions to prevent errors.  Sometimes you need to buy two.  One to ruin and one to get right.

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38 minutes ago, GazzaS said:

I'm going to ponder other options over lunch....

 

Hopefully none of them are a 5 lb sledge hammer...

It seems there's been an influx of 'cuss worthy' builds on here of late. This, Peter's Whirlwind, John's F9, Ernie's Helldiver. Somebody please take a Tamiya kit out, throw some cement in the box and give it a good shake for a no fuss build! 

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13 minutes ago, BlrwestSiR said:

Hopefully none of them are a 5 lb sledge hammer...

It seems there's been an influx of 'cuss worthy' builds on here of late. This, Peter's Whirlwind, John's F9, Ernie's Helldiver. Somebody please take a Tamiya kit out, throw some cement in the box and give it a good shake for a no fuss build! 

I have pondered lengthening the cowls...   or shortening the engine mounts.  The first will be messy and perhaps inspire trashing it.  Shortening the engine connections will make for a weaker structure.  It might be doable.

 

Although I cannot think of any place where I may have lengthened the interior...  I'm prepared to accept that it's operator error.

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Gary,  OMG, this is reminiscent of the KH P-39 kit, but this is ZM!!  You are doing an AMAZING job with the constant fixes - and not just chucking it all into the bin.  Your level of detail is admirable - but overall, your build is going swimmingly well.  Don't let these gremlins get you down.  I would not have even noticed most of what you are pointing out.

Hang in there!  Chris

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2 hours ago, Martinnfb said:

or just to insert evergreen strip in there and re-scribe the seems ? Don't meat to be smartass, just trying to brainstorm the least painful approach 

I've already disconnected the engine and began preparing for the fix.  Besides...  If I put the strip of evergreen at the front, it will be narrower than the oil cooler ring.  If I put it at the back, there is too much detail to dick with.  If I were to go that way, the spacer would have to be in the center.  

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2 hours ago, CANicoll said:

Gary,  OMG, this is reminiscent of the KH P-39 kit, but this is ZM!!  You are doing an AMAZING job with the constant fixes - and not just chucking it all into the bin.  Your level of detail is admirable - but overall, your build is going swimmingly well.  Don't let these gremlins get you down.  I would not have even noticed most of what you are pointing out.

Hang in there!  Chris

I still have a feeling that I did it somewhere.  But for the life of me can't figure out where.  Either way...  I'm already into the fix.  I just had a short nap and am waking to a coffee.  But I am committed to completing it.

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Gary, you've managed to put me into a frenzy! I've done a preliminary mockup (waiting for white glue to dry right now - pictures when I can), and I think the front ring might not be back far enough. On mine, the notch on part H30 and H31 just touch the exhausts and the cowls appear at this point to be the proper length. Mind you, I've yet to install the exhaust shrouds.

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24 minutes ago, Bill_S said:

Gary, you've managed to put me into a frenzy! I've done a preliminary mockup (waiting for white glue to dry right now - pictures when I can), and I think the front ring might not be back far enough. On mine, the notch on part H30 and H31 just touch the exhausts and the cowls appear at this point to be the proper length. Mind you, I've yet to install the exhaust shrouds.

Bill,

     The oil cooler sits just a little proud of H30 and H31 just like photos.  And the ring won't go any farther back without chopping plastic.  I pressed the shit out of it, and it didn't budge a millimeter.

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Current progress.  Seam work and sink marks next before I add any more parts.

 

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The panels are doing all of the work here.  I used a big blob of blutack to hold the motor in-situ while I glued the engine where I want it.  The blutack is now a permanent part of the model.

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