Administrators Clunkmeister Posted December 6, 2022 Administrators Share Posted December 6, 2022 I ran out of black Mr. Surfacer 1500, my regular go-to primer, so I thought I’d try this stuff. U N B E L I E V A B L E ! I followed the directions, pulled the air up to 30 psi and shot it straight through my old Paasche VL, and it laid on nice and opaque,…. And took a couple hours or so to dry. Plus, it leveled itself out and dried rock hard with no adhesion issues. I was impressed. Next, I tried it on a Virgin piece of uncleared resin casting block. The mold release agent had not been cleaned yet. Gave it a shot, and same thing: 2 hours to dry and nothing would pull up with masking tape. So then, I trued it on my Helldiver’s airframe. There is plastic, resin, and PEll over the place on that model, and it didn’t miss a beat. Even the PE, where regular primer can pool up and bead on metal, this laid down perfectly. After 2 hours, it was super sloth and level. I’m impressed. I’ve never used this stuff before, but it’s truly amazing. The black flows out perfectly but needs a lot of air pressure. I haven’t tried grey or white yet, but the black is truly fabulous stuff. I’ve been hot and cold on both MiG and AK products, some good, some bad. But I LOVE this stuff and will see how the MiG Real Colors spray over top of the MiG One Shot. 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted December 6, 2022 Author Administrators Share Posted December 6, 2022 Another thing. I shot this straight out of the bottle. No Mr. Leveling Thinner, nothing. Just straight through. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlrwestSiR Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Sounds very promising there Ernie. I just started using Aqueous Mr Surfacer 1000 as a primer. I'm liking that so far. What did you use for cleaning out the airbrush after? Carl 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted December 6, 2022 Author Administrators Share Posted December 6, 2022 It seems to be water based, Carl. I cleaned up with water, than ran my standard Alclad airbrush cleaner through it afterward. I’ve just read a bit on the stuff, and people are saying it’s rebottled Stynylrez. I’ve never used Stynylrez, but I’ve heard good stuff about it, so maybe I’m on to something. What I really like is how it applies over everything, no matter the makeup of the surface, and dries very slow so it levels out. No reason to use Mr. Leveling Thinner in this, it already is reduced and retarded perfectly. It IS pretty thick, so I wouldn’t be running it through a new Iwata or Grex, but my old VL swallowed it whole. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted December 6, 2022 Author Administrators Share Posted December 6, 2022 Carl, I’ve never been a fan of water based anything, including people. 🤣. I’ve always preferred solvent based, such as lacquer and enamel, as it seems to bite the surface better, but I’ve always fought primers over PE and resin, but this might change my mind. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterpools Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Ernie I've good things as well and bought a bottle a while back, just hasn't used it yet. From what I've read and heard, it is Stynylrez and shoots great until you are about halfway through the bottle and then it supposedly gets really thick. I pretty much use MRP Lacquer Primers straight from the bottle and the results are always top notch. I used to use the older Mig Acrylic Gray and Black Primers which I did like but one I found MRP primers, I never looked back. Completely agree, the solvent based primers and paints seems to bite a lot better. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GusMac Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 I've never used the black but the red brown I used as a base for the rusty CHET I did and I'd agree with Ernie that it covers lovely. The lack of odour is another plus point as my wife gets twitchy if I use lacquers. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted December 7, 2022 Author Administrators Share Posted December 7, 2022 5 hours ago, GusMac said: I've never used the black but the red brown I used as a base for the rusty CHET I did and I'd agree with Ernie that it covers lovely. The lack of odour is another plus point as my wife gets twitchy if I use lacquers. My wife’s the same way. The less I pollute the air the happier she is. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterpools Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 A plus for sure 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber_County Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 My wife is asthmatic so acrylic all the way. The only time i shoot enamels or Tamiya is mid summer with booth and windows fully open…… 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlrwestSiR Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 The couple times I tried water based paint, they peeled off in sheets. That includes the primers, even mixing in their binders and what have you. The aggravation wasn't worth worth it. The only way they worked was to use a non-water based primer and then they'd be fine. Which kind of defeated the point. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted December 7, 2022 Author Administrators Share Posted December 7, 2022 49 minutes ago, BlrwestSiR said: The couple times I tried water based paint, they peeled off in sheets. That includes the primers, even mixing in their binders and what have you. The aggravation wasn't worth worth it. The only way they worked was to use a non-water based primer and then they'd be fine. Which kind of defeated the point. This stuff sticks like glue. It’s pretty awesome stuff, but I found myself thinning it with a few drops of water 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterpools Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 I'm just an MRP Primer Guy, wear a respirator and always shoot in the paint booth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belugawhaleman Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Sounds like a great product. I've been using tamiya spray primer. More recently, I've had excellent results by thinning Mr. Surfacer 1500 with leveling thinner and using it in my airbrush.....an Iwata Hp-c plus , .3 nozzle @ 20 psi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 I've always use water base. Never had any probs....harv 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaS Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Thanks for the report, Ernie. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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