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Bit more progress made. Intakes on and all gaps filled and sanded after a few iterations. Used Bondo Glazing Putty for the donkey work and then any smaller imperfections filled with Tamiya putty.

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Using 3M 320 grit sanding sheets cut to size for the worst of the sanding and then various grits of Micromesh to finish. All the rescribing has been done as well. That's usually a job I dread but on the evidence so far the resin actually seems to be easier to scribe than the usual injection plastics, I think because it's harder.

The Mr Paint order should arrive tomorrow, so hopefully, I'll be able to make a bit more progress on the cockpit.

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On 1/29/2024 at 9:22 PM, GusMac said:

Bit more progress made. Intakes on and all gaps filled and sanded after a few iterations. Used Bondo Glazing Putty for the donkey work and then any smaller imperfections filled with Tamiya putty.

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Using 3M 320 grit sanding sheets cut to size for the worst of the sanding and then various grits of Micromesh to finish. All the rescribing has been done as well. That's usually a job I dread but on the evidence so far the resin actually seems to be easier to scribe than the usual injection plastics, I think because it's harder.

The Mr Paint order should arrive tomorrow, so hopefully, I'll be able to make a bit more progress on the cockpit.

Stunning Gus, I’m tempted by resin but …………you are the master of it…….bench time is going to be limited now Six Nations is starting……..

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Thanks Phil. I think I'm still at the learner stage as a resin builder but I think a big part of it is the anticipation/dread you build up in your head. If you just take it steadily and methodically it's actually pretty straightforward and really enjoyable. 

To be honest, I think the 3D printed stuff here is harder to work with as it's so brittle and the print lines are quite prominent on some pieces due to the print orientation. 

The Iconicair Attacker that I won in the Xmas raffle looks like another beast altogether, resin detail but without the big pour stubs, etc.

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15 hours ago, GusMac said:

Thanks Phil. I think I'm still at the learner stage as a resin builder but I think a big part of it is the anticipation/dread you build up in your head. If you just take it steadily and methodically it's actually pretty straightforward and really enjoyable. 

To be honest, I think the 3D printed stuff here is harder to work with as it's so brittle and the print lines are quite prominent on some pieces due to the print orientation. 

The Iconicair Attacker that I won in the Xmas raffle looks like another beast altogether, resin detail but without the big pour stubs, etc.

You are spot on about anticipation / dread, I must admit I put building the Tamiya Mossie for those exact reasons. When it came to the build it was a pure joy, never say never. I’ll have to have a think about a resin excursion…..

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What I like about the Vegan is that JetMads decided to be somewhat conservative, and therefore safe regarding their approach here.

The entire exterior is cast resin, with everything else printed.   I’m the exact opposite of Gus:  I love working in resin, but somewhat less so in 3D print.   The fragility of the parts is my number one reason.   Resin is tough, 3D, at least to me, crumbles if I look at it wrong, like this:

 

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On 2/1/2024 at 5:04 PM, GusMac said:

Just got the Mr Paint colours for this today. As a question to those who're experienced with them, what's the best pressure to spray them at?

Hi Gus

I shoot a lot of Mr Color - MRP paint and it's has been my number one go to paint for years.

I shoot MRP straight from the bottle, absolutely no thinning and the base is also MRP Primer - normally gray but I do use black sometimes.

My go to air brushes depending on how big the model is and the real estate I need to cover:

H&S Infinity CR Plus .2 tip

Iwata Eclipse EP-CS 3.5 tip

Regardless of the air brush set up, my working air pressure is anywhere between 12-15 psi and light coats. I do need to adjust the regulator to maintain the working pressure depending on which air brush I am using. primer coats, I normally use and H&S Infinity CR Plus with a .4 tip. 

Nothing special about shooting, just wear a respirator and shoot in a spray booth - it's lacquer.

You are going to love the paints.

 

 

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Thanks Peter, that's exactly the info I was needing. I tend to paint at about 18 psi so I'll drop it down a bit for this. Think I'll have a few trials on an old paint mule first rather than bugger up this lovely kit.

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15 minutes ago, Peterpools said:

Gus

Nothing like testing and you are going to love MRP paints.

 

See other thread about how hard it is to find them in Blighty lol ! 

Odd since I think they are made in Cz ...???

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Got the bang seat painted up and assembled.

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Now needs decals added and weathering. There are a few print lines visible on the sides of the frame but I felt it was better to leave alone and not risk destroying the detail as I suspect they won't be visible once it's in the cockpit.

A la Ernie above, I must have stared at the seatbelts wrong as I lost part of the top section trying to remove a print support which was stopping it bedding in properly against the seat pad. Again, I hope it'll be fairly invisible once it's installed.

Going away for a week on Thursday so not sure there will be much further progress until we're back.

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On 2/3/2024 at 3:17 PM, PanzerWomble said:

See other thread about how hard it is to find them in Blighty lol ! 

Odd since I think they are made in Cz ...???

That IS odd. You could darn near get a group order together and one guy do a day trip to the Company itself. 

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30 minutes ago, Clunkmeister said:

That IS odd. You could darn near get a group order together and one guy do a day trip to the Company itself. 

Post B-word , some European companies find it hard to ship to the UK , especially when it comes to claiming back VAT tax . When in Europe it was easy , now they have to be registered as a company in the UK to claim it back

 I know this from my professional life trying to import machinery spares post 2019 . I'm assuming the cost of doing that outweighs the value of the market, plus the arse of customs wondering about imflammable liquids etc . What we need is a decent model shop in Calais that we can day trip to , like all the beggers bringing back cheap cigarettes / wine in the 1990s. 

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14 minutes ago, PanzerWomble said:

Post B-word , some European companies find it hard to ship to the UK , especially when it comes to claiming back VAT tax . When in Europe it was easy , now they have to be registered as a company in the UK to claim it back

 I know this from my professional life trying to import machinery spares post 2019 . I'm assuming the cost of doing that outweighs the value of the market, plus the arse of customs wondering about imflammable liquids etc . What we need is a decent model shop in Calais that we can day trip to , like all the beggers bringing back cheap cigarettes / wine in the 1990s. 

Craziness.  Bureaucracy working its magic.  

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Back from our break down in the East Neuk of Fife, so a little more progress made.

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Got all the cockpit components painted, weathered and flat-coated.

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Used the Red Fox 3D decals for the instrument panels as the details are just much sharper than I could achieve with the kit parts and a paint brush. The print layers were also quite noticeable on the main panel which were all sanded away to fit this.

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From test fitting the tolerances to squeeze all of this into the available space are tight to say the least, so I'm going to take my time and try not to bugger it up.

Also got the Maestro Models masks for the splinter cammo as I noticed Hannants was down to only two sets in stock and they've become hard to find elsewhere. Think it's going to be a while before I need them though!

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Very nice progress Gus, the cockpit and seat are stunners. Printing lines are always a problem, but I also think the sides of the seat will be invisible. Good, that you got your camo masks ordered, it would be a pain to cut them yourself. 

Cheers Rob

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Gus

Some terrific work on the major components of the front office and completely agree about how good the 3D cockpit decals are. The ejection seats look amazing with all the molded on details and I only wish every manufacturer would do their seats this way: especially with the molded on belts. 

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8 hours ago, Peterpools said:

Gus

Some terrific work on the major components of the front office and completely agree about how good the 3D cockpit decals are. The ejection seats look amazing with all the molded on details and I only wish every manufacturer would do their seats this way: especially with the molded on belts. 

Thanks all. The seatbelts were actually a separate 3D printed part Peter rather than moulded on. The detail and fit are great but it was sooo fragile trying to remove it from the print supports. Amazing what can be done with it now though.

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Got the cockpit assembled tonight. It actually went together easier than I expected although everything is so tight that I test fitted the seat and it's now in there permanently! No glue required!

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Tomorrow night's job is to get the nose attached. After a quick test tonight it'll definitely need a bit of trimming of the inside to get a snug fit but it shouldn't be too difficult to do.

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