PeteF Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 Jig for holding the whip antennas lol. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 Propellers done. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunhertz Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Nice one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncarina Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Great progress Pete! Cheers, Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 Posted a new topic in the "done" section but it's basically done. I have to detail the engine panels for display but that's it! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 And here's its show display. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunhertz Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Lovely work 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingco57 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Wonderful, what a beautiful build. Cees 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterpools Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Pete Beautiful work - a tremendous build Peter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncarina Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 This has been an epic journey you’ve shared Pete, and I’ve enjoyed it immensely! I am really impressed with your mossie: the build, finish, weathering, and display. Thanks for sharing your work! Cheers, Tom 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackster Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 I have run out of superlatives for this build, absolutely stunning, thank you for sharing. Will definitely be used as a guide when I start mine next year. Well done fella Cheers Kev 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share Posted November 3, 2018 Here's a tip...the landing gear is not easy to get the toe right...especially as you finish the nacelles before mounting them. If something goes askew, you're screwed. One of my wheels was toed out so the judges spent 5 seconds looking at 500 hours of work and blew it off and didn't place it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 33 minutes ago, PeteF said: Here's a tip...the landing gear is not easy to get the toe right...especially as you finish the nacelles before mounting them. If something goes askew, you're screwed. One of my wheels was toed out so the judges spent 5 seconds looking at 500 hours of work and blew it off and didn't place it. Precisely why I don't do contests....... I'm very sorry to hear that Pete, it is a truly stupendous build, had I been a judge it WOULD have been placed for sure... as far as I'm concerned it is a show stopper..... and by the way are these judges Mosquito 'experts'? and know the fine details of a Mossie? Just curious, not trying to stir anything up.... but really, judges, this is an excellent build...... also I put a 'like' on your post, but in reality I don't 'like' it at all.... kid of a pile of bovine excrement I'd say ( not the post but the judges decision)..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Jeff said: Precisely why I don't do contests....... I'm very sorry to hear that Pete, it is a truly stupendous build, had I been a judge it WOULD have been placed for sure... as far as I'm concerned it is a show stopper..... and by the way are these judges Mosquito 'experts'? and know the fine details of a Mossie? Just curious, not trying to stir anything up.... but really, judges, this is an excellent build...... also I put a 'like' on your post, but in reality I don't 'like' it at all.... kid of a pile of bovine excrement I'd say ( not the post but the judges decision)..... Ywah, it was disappointing. The armor judges discussed one tank in the time it took the two plane judges to do the entire large scale category. Those armor judges were tough but fair. I flipped my plane for the plane judges to see the bottom and they spent maybe 3 seconds looking at it LOL.I don’t think they even looked at the judging sheet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Wow..... and they wonder why guys don't participate... that kind of stuff, although isn't the end of the world, it is a little bit disheartening, and are they like that with the junior entrants? I have never judged and can't walk in their shoes with any authority, and I understand that if one is judging many entrants, it can get a bit overwhelming, BUT with that said, it is your pride and a lot of work went into it and maybe they needed a break, and come back a few minutes later??? but I also understand time is precious... still though .....and I also get ,and understand they can't please everyone................................. I have seen some judging at a show or two, and holy, they get right into the finest of details, which in some cases I'm not sure about..... but if there are two that are tied, then absolutely as its all in the details..... even though, I'm sorry you build got the brush off so to speak..... Glad you had the starch to enter your build, you should be proud of your great accomplishment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterpools Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Pete Exactly the same reason as Jeff why I stopped entering contests years ago and the judging doesn't reflect the quality and level of work that has gone into your Mossie. I don't want to start the same old discussion on good judging and bad judging, as I've served as a judge a zillion times, been my clubs Contest Chairman, a Regional Contest Chairman and a National Contest Chairman back in the day. What bothers me the most is how quickly they dismissed your Mossie and did the judging. May I ask how many entries there were and your opinion on those entries as well. Judging normally always starts out looking for building faults and errors and then moves onto the work done. To dismiss the Mossie on the wheel alignment and nothing else, that would mean all the the entries had no building flaws at all. Since I wasn't there, I would welcome your opinion on the other work, as your building skills easily demonstrate to knowledge and skill level. In my book, one awesome build Peter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 51 minutes ago, Peterpools said: Pete Exactly the same reason as Jeff why I stopped entering contests years ago and the judging doesn't reflect the quality and level of work that has gone into your Mossie. I don't want to start the same old discussion on good judging and bad judging, as I've served as a judge a zillion times, been my clubs Contest Chairman, a Regional Contest Chairman and a National Contest Chairman back in the day. What bothers me the most is how quickly they dismissed your Mossie and did the judging. May I ask how many entries there were and your opinion on those entries as well. Judging normally always starts out looking for building faults and errors and then moves onto the work done. To dismiss the Mossie on the wheel alignment and nothing else, that would mean all the the entries had no building flaws at all. Since I wasn't there, I would welcome your opinion on the other work, as your building skills easily demonstrate to knowledge and skill level. In my book, one awesome build Peter The two aircraft judges had every scale of model and WW1 to judge. Where I saw and heard judges of other categories using lights and really talking together (one said of a diorama “but it shows great effort and that’s worth something), these guys seemed to be just quickly judging on overall fit and finish. There was a Helldiver that had really good paint and that I could have seen as superior to my plane (discounting the fact it had no detail or open panels beyond what you would see on the flight deck) but the other three planes that placed were clean but totally uninspired. There was no story, no detail beyond what a pack of photo etched parts gets you. There were 9 planes in large scale and we left after I saw I wasn’t in the top 4. we left. This morning I twisted the metal landing gear straight...it didn’t occur to me that I could have fixed it then and there but they really displayed no real interest in my plane during judging. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 Here's the table for large scale. That P40 with Japanese markings and that P51 were in the top 3. Either the Revell Spitfire or Helldiver was the other one. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterpools Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Pete Poor judging at it's best. So if I understand this, two judges judged all the various aircraft scale categories? That's insane! How could they possibly do their job and CAREFULLY judge each aircraft to the same level and degree? In my way of thinking : they can't. Judges need to take the time necessary to thoroughly judge each entry to the same degree and fairness and it seems that was not done. I normally chalk it off to the best models on the table win but in this case, speed seemed to be the determining issue. I wonder if the contest just didn't have enough judges, as two is odd in itself or the judges just wanted to get the job done? I just saw the photograph of the contest table and while not a lot of aircraft models, that amount of entries correctly judge should have taken 1-1.5 hours at a minimum. Ten minutes per entry isn't a lot of time and times seven entries that's 70 minutes right there! Thank you for posting the photo as it does answer some of my judging thoughts. May I suggest if there is another contest up around your way, enter and now with the wheel squared away, the results should be very much different. Peter 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 Yep, it was weird. I get that alignment and basic fit and finish are important but I thought presentation, extra work and extra detail was worth something as well. Not in this case. Yep, two judges for all the aircraft. I’m done with IPMS Arizona...don’t need to revisit it. If I build another model, I’ll keep it a project for personal challenge and satisfaction only like I should have kept this. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterpools Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Pete The Mossie was a super build but in IMPS contest, first cuts are always made on the basis of the basic build steps. Detailing and all the extra hard work isn't taken into the judging until round two. I just don't see how the judges could have given equal time to each entry in the first round of cuts and then the balance and have been done so fast. I would still give the contest one more shot with the Mossie and I'm sure the results will be different Peter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber_County Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Pete, really sorry to hear about the contest. IMHO the build is outstanding in every detail. I’ve been to a number of shows and I find the judging to be a little bizarre in some cases but I’m no expert. As Peter said I’d try another show just to see. All I’d say if my Tamiya Mossie comes half as good I’ll be ecstatic....... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 Oh, I never posted photos of the engine panels. They had no internal detail either. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drifter Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Say What??? They didnt place yours? Were they smoking strong stuff. IMHO you should have just pitched up and collect the 1st prize. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 I made a rather lengthy review/help video for things to look out for on this kit. Hopefully it will help anyone looking to build one of these. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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