Thoughts on MRP vs Mission Model Paints

[Mikester]

My Dad is finally getting his workbench set up again and starting back up models.  He was a Testor's MM guy in the past but he's looking for acrylic alternatives so I'm thinking MRP or MMP are really the only serious options here,  Looking for some input from those who have used them on the pros and cons, etc.

Thanks!

[smitty44]

I was interested in Mission a year or so ago, and had though about giving it a try. However they didn't seem to very large selection of colors at the time so I started using MRP. I absolutely love MRP paints. No thinning, a huge selection of colors, and dries hard as nails. You almost have to prep for NMF this stuff covers so thin( I shoot at 8psi alot!). Drawbacks are is stinks to high heaven, and is $7 dollars a btl, but they last a bit. I know a guy on my FB modeling page, 32nd Scale Mafia, who swears by mission models, and his stuff looks great. Tough call with two great options.

[James H]

I still like Gunze acrylics.

[Mikester]

1 hour ago, smitty44 said:

I was interested in Mission a year or so ago, and had though about giving it a try. However they didn't seem to very large selection of colors at the time so I started using MRP. I absolutely love MRP paints. No thinning, a huge selection of colors, and dries hard as nails. You almost have to prep for NMF this stuff covers so thin( I shoot at 8psi alot!). Drawbacks are is stinks to high heaven, and is $7 dollars a btl, but they last a bit. I know a guy on my FB modeling page, 32nd Scale Mafia, who swears by mission models, and his stuff looks great. Tough call with two great options.

After doing some research it appears that MRP is an acrylic lacquer, just like my beloved Mr. Color so the stink you noted is understandable.  Since my dad will be painting indoors the MMP is probably the best way for him to go.

[Mikester]

40 minutes ago, James H said:

I still like Gunze acrylics.

Me too, Jimbo.  Kind of hard to get a hold of in the US though,

[Bomber_County]

Dare I say  ..........Vallejo.........non smelly and I personally like them.......

[GusMac]

The Mig Jiminez Ammo acrylics are also very good. Similar to the Vallejo and come in many 'pre-packaged' sets for particular eras, theatres, etc.

Don't know how easy they are to get hold of outside Europe though?

[Mikester]

46 minutes ago, Bomber_County said:

Dare I say  ..........Vallejo.........non smelly and I personally like them.......

Phil, personally I've never had much luck spraying Vallejo.  That being said I've never used the proper thinners either.   I recently picked up some Vallejo airbrush thinner and paint retarder so maybe I'll have a little better luck.  I have used the MMP to demo an airbrush and I have to say I was very impressed with how it went down and sprayed.

[James H]

47 minutes ago, Mikester said:

Phil, personally I've never had much luck spraying Vallejo.  That being said I've never used the proper thinners either.   I recently picked up some Vallejo airbrush thinner and paint retarder so maybe I'll have a little better luck.  I have used the MMP to demo an airbrush and I have to say I was very impressed with how it went down and sprayed.

I've always found Vallejo sprays like shit.

[Grunhertz]

I gave away my vallejo. Model Air as it sprayed OK but just wouldn't stick to primer, plastic or even other paint. Give me gunze acrylic anytime or tamiya just because I can get it easily 

[Bomber_County]

12 hours ago, James H said:

I've always found Vallejo sprays like shit.

Only a suggestion!!

[DocRob]

I use a lot of Vallejo Air with mixed results. Some are great and some colours don't seem to flow very good on the surface, thinned to different grades. I never liked the retarder though. AK Colours seem to be a little bit better for my liking, better adherence and finer spray. I never use these colors without a good coat of primer (Smelly Tamiya rattle can is simply the best).

Never tried MRP or MMP but will follow here to gain from your experiences.

Cheers Rob

[Guest DannyVM]

MRP (the none acrylic ones) all the way, no doubt..........Nothing more to say.

[James H]

39 minutes ago, DannyVM said:

MRP (the none acrylic ones) all the way, no doubt..........Nothing more to say.

MRP (in the bottles) is an acrylic lacquer.

[Mikester]

1 hour ago, DocRob said:

I use a lot of Vallejo Air with mixed results. Some are great and some colours don't seem to flow very good on the surface, thinned to different grades. I never liked the retarder though. AK Colours seem to be a little bit better for my liking, better adherence and finer spray. I never use these colors without a good coat of primer (Smelly Tamiya rattle can is simply the best).

Never tried MRP or MMP but will follow here to gain from your experiences.

Cheers Rob

The thing that impressed me with the MMP is that when you add the urethane it's tough as nails.  I love my Mr. Color but I consider their metallics only so-so (much like a lot of other mfrs), I'm considering ordering some of their metallics for myself as well as my dad just because it appears to be much more durable than anything else out there.

[Mikester]

8 minutes ago, James H said:

MRP (in the bottles) is an acrylic lacquer.

Yup, I think it's the same chemical composition as Mr. Color, acrylic pigments in a lacquer carrier.

[Peterpools]

My go to paints:

Mr Color ( number one weapon of choice) and MRP ( number two)

For acrylics:

Vellejo Model Air - absolutely a dream to paint with. I do use their thinners and always shoots smooth as silk.

For quick use - I now wear a respiator and for a normal painting session: my spray booth with filters and dual extractor fans.

Wish I was this carefull back in the day.

Peter

 

 

 

[Bomber_County]

Glad someone concurs on using Vallejo...........I haven’t seen a lot of Mr Colour over here in the UK but haven’t really looked either......

[Mikester]

28 minutes ago, Bomber_County said:

Glad someone concurs on using Vallejo...........I haven’t seen a lot of Mr Colour over here in the UK but haven’t really looked either......

I bought a lot when I lived in Japan.  For under $2.00 US a bottle an absolute steal.

[Guest DannyVM]

2 hours ago, James H said:

MRP (in the bottles) is an acrylic lacquer.

Nope James, it's a acrylic based lacquer paint, not a acrylic lacquer. It's a world of difference between these two. Acrylic based lacquer paint is based on acrylic ingredients, but you still need to thin or clean them with solvent (Cellulose based) thinners. That makes them Cellulose lacquers and so very poisonous but also very strong. In fact, acrylic lacquers don't exist, or in other word's they are given the wrong name. Pure acrylic paint's are the ones that only thin or clean with water or water based thinners like the Vallejo range paints. You also can not compare MRP with Tamiya or Mr. hobby color acrylic paints because they are based on different sort of thinners and mediums.

 

[Dave J]

Mike, I love MRP and my Mr Color Laquers, but for the last 10 months I have been solely been painting with Misson Paints and I just love them. They spray on great and thin out beautifully. The Jagdpanzer I posted the other day was painted with them. I can't highly recommend them enough! And the customer service that Jon from Mission offers is awesome. If you have any issues, he's more than happy to help you and talk you through it. I have pretty much every colour bar two!

[nmayhew]

i think i have paint fatigue though

it's a bit like the pigment 'bandwagon'

[Jeff]

Well, damn I just read this thread, and was trying to come over to the 'dark' side of acrylics, and even got a fairly moderate gravity feed airbrush for Christmas to try it, but it sure seems as bad as enamels are for the world and everything, they mostly do as they are asked.....now I'm really in a muddle... I will give the acrylics a go, but I did many years ago well before all the new paint technology, and was not the slightest bit impressed...... then thought I would give it a go, but now reading this, I really am not sure what to think........ maybe I should quit reading eh?

[Bomber_County]

What I like about water based acrylics is they don’t smell, big bonus. Also they do go down a treat either sprayed or applied by hand. Also just trying out a new dual action airbrush, go down as smooth as silk.........by the way I use Vallejo ........

[Mikester]

1 hour ago, Jeff said:

Well, damn I just read this thread, and was trying to come over to the 'dark' side of acrylics, and even got a fairly moderate gravity feed airbrush for Christmas to try it, but it sure seems as bad as enamels are for the world and everything, they mostly do as they are asked.....now I'm really in a muddle... I will give the acrylics a go, but I did many years ago well before all the new paint technology, and was not the slightest bit impressed...... then thought I would give it a go, but now reading this, I really am not sure what to think........ maybe I should quit reading eh?

Jeff, I'd give Mission Models a go if you're interested in switching.  I've done a lot of research over the past few days and have seen nothing but good feedback on them.