Administrators Clunkmeister Posted January 12, 2021 Administrators Share Posted January 12, 2021 I’m at a standstill on my Fokker project as I wait for reference material, so.... Here’s my take on one. I’m thinking I’ll do an EF-105F from the Trumpeter G kit so obviously there’s plenty of hacking, cutting, and sawing go do. An F looks NOTHING like a G. Someone dared me to do it, so here we are. But before we get crazy into details, the shape needs to be fixed. If I can’t get the shape more or less right, I’ll pass on it as a valiant try The Trumpeter Kit is legendary for its basic shape issues, from the nose all the way to the he fin and even the ventral fin being all kinds of goofy so, we start with the most basic, remove the ECM pods and insert some smooth side in hid place 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted January 12, 2021 Author Administrators Share Posted January 12, 2021 I decided to look very closely at the canopy. The single seat D kit has a canopy that is more fiction than fact, although someminor vixen and posing it open will hide much. The two seater seems to fare a bit better. A bit of shaping on the turtleneck and we should be OK 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted January 12, 2021 Author Administrators Share Posted January 12, 2021 A lot of soul searching going on here. My heart says “speedbird”, a slick early F in NMF, but my brain say Vietnam, possibly Ryan’s Raiders or Red River Showboat. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlrwestSiR Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 You're off to a great start Ernie. I like the idea of Ryan's Raiders myself. They had the wraparound camo right? Carl 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted January 12, 2021 Author Administrators Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, BlrwestSiR said: You're off to a great start Ernie. I like the idea of Ryan's Raiders myself. They had the wraparound camo right? Carl Some of them did, yes Carl. But it was a very short lived experiment. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaireckstadt Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 13 hours ago, BlrwestSiR said: You're off to a great start Ernie. I like the idea of Ryan's Raiders myself. They had the wraparound camo right? Carl Copy this! Impressive start Ernie! I would also prefer the SEA-scheme. I love it... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Great start cupcake ! Super good work on the ECM pods area.....harv 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlubber Mike Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Great start Ernie! Lots of cosmetic surgery there 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber_County Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 The masterclass has begun, taking a seat, this is going to be good...............we await with bated breath Ernie....... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HubertB Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 It’s probably only me, but IMHO the Thud is only good-looking in silver paint finish (silver paint, because when the -F entered service, Operation Look-Alike had had the NMF F-105s repainted in corrosion-protection paint) Hubert 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted January 13, 2021 Author Administrators Share Posted January 13, 2021 7 hours ago, HubertB said: It’s probably only me, but IMHO the Thud is only good-looking in silver paint finish (silver paint, because when the -F entered service, Operation Look-Alike had had the NMF F-105s repainted in corrosion-protection paint) Hubert Yep. I think thy called it “Air Defense Grey” or “Canadian Voodoo Grey” by ModelMaster. It’s a odd color and hard to match. P,us, yes, it’s some seriously boring. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HubertB Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 No, Ernie, it was definitely silver paint. Very much like English « Speed Silver ». In the early 60s, Look-Alike was put in place to harmonise to the same standard all the F-105s. As operations in Europe had shown that the ‘chiefs were susceptible to weather corrosion (have you seen the rain when it’s falling on Bitburg ? ), it was decided to paint the F-105s in silver. Then, when deployed in Vietnam, they were camouflaged in the SE-Asia scheme. Thus, at one time between 1964 and 1967, you had NMF, silver-paint, and camoed F-105s, although the NMF birds were disappearing fast... There were even some « D » in NMF in the early Vietnam deployments. But, if European rain was bad, imagine what it was like in Thailand or Vietnam ... My assumption is that, besides the prototypes, the « F » were delivered in silver paint, given the timing. Hubert 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1to1scale Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 18 hours ago, Clunkmeister said: Yep. I think thy called it “Air Defense Grey” or “Canadian Voodoo Grey” by ModelMaster. It’s a odd color and hard to match. P,us, yes, it’s some seriously boring. FYI, Gunze makes ADC gray paint. H57 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted January 15, 2021 Author Administrators Share Posted January 15, 2021 Thanks for the clarification, Hubert. I’be seen pics of Vietnam D’s In NMF, but like you said, they’re few and far between. to me, the G is the ultimate Thud. They did a thankless dirty, crazy, insane job and did it well. The F did the same thing, but without all the fancy electronics. Insanity! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted January 16, 2021 Author Administrators Share Posted January 16, 2021 Update 01/15/21 Got both smooth sides of the fuselage installed and some handy dandy Milliput filled the gaps for me. On the right side, I got cocky and in a rush and started drilling holes too far back. The result? I created myself a bit of extra work. But my good friend Uncle Milliput came to help. This weekend, my goal will be to complete the resin conversions and additions, plus drill any holes, vents, and drains left out by Trumpeter 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted January 16, 2021 Author Administrators Share Posted January 16, 2021 I absolutely live for this stuff. Cutting plastic, then pushing, prodding and massaging resin to fit where plastic once was. It’s simple exercises, but they keep you sharp because you can screw up oh so easy if you let your guard down. The dorsal fin replacement is one of the easiest exercised in modeling. The Trumpeter supplies abomination looks hideous, like a blob of plastic the GT Resin replacement component simply slides into place, no muss, no fuss 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted January 16, 2021 Author Administrators Share Posted January 16, 2021 Next, we’ll explore nosecone fitment. The Trumpeter part looks kind of fictional. Too long and pointed. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJTX Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Looking great. I can't decide if I want to go with the GT Resin dorsal fin or the Quickboost one. I have both of them and keep going back and forth. Right now I'm leaning towards Quickboost. Loving the tutorial as you lead the way for this resin dummy. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted January 18, 2021 Author Administrators Share Posted January 18, 2021 Tony, just remember to always cut a bit short of where they tell you to. I’ve been there, done that, and made me a ton of extra work 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted January 18, 2021 Author Administrators Share Posted January 18, 2021 Another area that’s gonna need serious help are the intakes. Simply put, they are pure fiction. The ENTIRE ramp assemblies are completely MIA, matter of fact, it’s like absolutely zero attemp was made at trying to even vaguely represent them. Also, there are no ducts inside the fuselage at all, nor is there any compressor behind the stator on the engine face. I guess maybe Trumpeter thought this was powered by a ramjet, not a turbojet? Turbojets need a compressor, and we’re gonna have to make one. Oh yay. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted January 18, 2021 Author Administrators Share Posted January 18, 2021 We need to make the ramp and it’s track. This should be a relatively straightforward exercise. I now see why so many folks use FOD Covers. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJTX Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I've got a spare set of intake covers for you if it all goes sideways! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted January 18, 2021 Author Administrators Share Posted January 18, 2021 49 minutes ago, TJTX said: I've got a spare set of intake covers for you if it all goes sideways! Thanks, Tony. Then I won’t be at all conservative here. If it goes all pear shaped, I’ll call y’all. But it looks somewhat a simple fabrication. The trick will be to make both exactly the same. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted January 18, 2021 Author Administrators Share Posted January 18, 2021 Well we achieved our weekend goals, and with time to spare. The corrected fin and nose really help correct the look of Trumpeter’s mess. Now, out with the Dremel and start drilling out vents and cooling slots. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlrwestSiR Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Lots of splicing and dicing there Ernie. Nicely done too. I don't always remember the measure thrice, cut once rule myself. Carl 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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