GazzaS Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Hello friends! As some of you know, I've embarked on a build of a restored P-40 finished in NMF. I'm going to foil it. However, I haven't added rivets to a foiled model before. So, I've made two comparison test panels. Both have been finished the same way, and the rivets made with the same rivet tool, the Rivet-R using the 1mm spacing wheel. The difference is that one panel had the rivets made below the foil, and on the other panel, the rivets were made on the foil. Don't pay attention to the wrinkles. They are there because the wing surface won't become rigid until cemented to the lower surface. Also, I made a mistake while trimming a panel, removing a slim wedge of foil and ruining the panel. One is marked "A" in all of the photos whilst the other is marked "B" in all of the photos. The lighting and direction of lighting was kept constant, though in the various pictures the wing was rotated. Please let me know which set of rivets look more realistic to what you'd expect to on a scale model with NMF finish. Thanks in advance! Any further comments you'd care to make will be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance! Gaz 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocRob Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Not easy to tell from the pictures, I have a slight tendency towards 'A'. Are these the embossed ones? It seems to me, that they enhance the three dimensional appearance of the rivets a little better, wich leads to a little bit more 'made' look than 'B' Especially with tiny details like rivets, sometimes the most convincing way isn't to reproduce the real thing, but to use a method which looks best considering the scale effect and emphasis of a certain look you like to achieve. Cheers Rob 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber_County Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Gaz to my untrained eye, I reckon they both look good, how the light plays on the surface and if it’s convex or concave will always effect the appearance. I’d tend to agree with Rob find the the best method to represent the rivet than being faithful to the original........my 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wumm Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 My preference is for 'A'... Although rather than consistent lighting and angles, perhaps showing us a variation in both might give a wider selection of scenarios to able to better decide. S 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 HUH...................... and I thought I liked 'B' better... in the light in the pics, they look a little more pronounced, which make them easier for my old 4 eyes to see............ for me they gave more definition, but being a guy who has ever embarked on such a project, my comments may not hold a lot of validity, it is just a layman's observation..... bot in actually look just fine to me..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Same to me. What worries me is slight tinkle in A........harv 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlrwestSiR Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 For me, I'm having a bit of a hard time seeing a difference between the two. Probably because I'm on my phone. Both look good though. I believe that Peter from Airscale does the rivets on top when doing NMF. Catl 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber_County Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 2 hours ago, harv said: Same to me. What worries me is slight tinkle in A........harv Harv beware of that tinkle........ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Dam spell check !......harv 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HubertB Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Taking into account your forewords, I’d still go for « B », even though « A » is probably more accurate in terms of scale rendition. Hubert 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaS Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 Guys, Thanks for your efforts and replies. I took some daylight photos and they don't look much different, though it is foggy outside. Maybe sunlight would have offered some better contrasts. My wife offered to let me use her Olympus E-620 which allowed me to take detailed macro shots. It hadn't been used in a few years, and I guess she was tired of hearing me bemoan my inability to take decent pictures. It took a couple days between recharging the batteries, work, and moving my daughter into her new place. Luckily there was a .pdf manual online. Now, I can peel the foil off and continue improving the plastic surface. Gaz 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinnfb Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 I like the "B" option, yet is there any chance to take a shot in the daylight, they would pop out nicely. Cheers M. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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