Fidd88 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 3 hours ago, CrankyCrafstman said: Hey Fidd88 I know it's not supposed to be painted bronze/copper because its actually metal, I believe it is stainless steel but not sure. Here is a picture of what you are talking about. They're the chaps. Sorry I didn't mean to impugn your model-making, but you'd be amazed at how often it's wrong in the RC modelling world. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainMackayDall Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 I found these - admittedly colourised images off: https://www.facebook.com/colourbyRJM/ The first image: Leading Aircraftmen Norman Bond of Swindon and William Webb of Addington, Surrey, carry a rocket projectile to load under the wing of Bristol Second image: Five Malta-based pilots sitting in front of two fighter aircraft at Luqa. Third and fourth from the left, respectively are, Wing Commander J K Buchanan, Commanding Officer of No. 272 Squadron RAF, and Wing Commander M M Stephens, leader of the Hal Far Fighter Wing, shortly before the end of his tour of operations. Behind them is Wing Commander P P Hanks' Supermarine Spitfire Mark VC, BR498 'PP-H', which he flew as leader of the Luqa Fighter Wing, parked in front of a Bristol Beaufighter of No. 272 Squadron RAF. Third: Bristol Beaufighter TF Mark X, NE543 'UB-E', of No. 455 Squadron RAAF based at Langham, Norfolk, in low-level flight over the North Sea after firing off its rocket projectiles. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_S Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Watching this one with interest, Ron. The old Beau takes a LOT of work to bring it up to current standards. I did one about four years ago... it was prior to release of the Model Monkey cockpit - the build log is here: https://forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php?/topic/65261-beaufighter-252-squadron-1942/&tab=comments#comment-850746 Those exhaust tubes from the engine to the collector ring are a bear. When all was said and done, it was difficult to see the added detail. Good luck! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrankyCrafstman Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 Hey Bill I just read through your build on LSP. WOW! I hope I can achieve as good a model as you made. Really nice work. Ron G 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidd88 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 The confusing thing is that each pipe into the townend ring is served by two cylinders, one a straight pipe, the other forking into it the adjacent cylinder. So I presume the cylinders have two exhaust ports per pot. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrankyCrafstman Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 40 minutes ago, Fidd88 said: The confusing thing is that each pipe into the townend ring is served by two cylinders, one a straight pipe, the other forking into it the adjacent cylinder. So I presume the cylinders have two exhaust ports per pot. Nice, but thats not from a Beaufighter, to many pipes. Ron G 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidd88 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Correct. I think it's from a Wellington, probably a MkIII, as it's configured for the "Hercules" 14 cylinder sleeve-valved and double-banked, rather than the 9 cylinder "Pegasus". I'd be interested to know if the Pegasus also branches exhausts in the same way two into one. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_S Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 39 minutes ago, Fidd88 said: Correct. I think it's from a Wellington, probably a MkIII, as it's configured for the "Hercules" 14 cylinder sleeve-valved and double-banked, rather than the 9 cylinder "Pegasus". I'd be interested to know if the Pegasus also branches exhausts in the same way two into one. No. That branching is from front and back cylinder banks. Here's a Pegasus from a Fairey Swordfish... 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HubertB Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 I agree with Bill. The sleeve-valve system of the engines entailed two intake and two exhaust ports. With 18 holes, this ring is for a 9-cylinder engine. Hubert 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrankyCrafstman Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 Speaking of "townend rings" I've been working on mine here's where I'm at. I took this piece of 1/8" thk. piece of plastic and made this. the beginnings of the "townend ring" view front to back. view of the ring from the rear. view showing the ring inside of the cowl with the 14 holes drilled out. another view of the ring. view of ring through the cowl. another view of the ring through the cowl. I still have alot of work to do on this plus create all the exhaust pipes times two. . Ron G 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidd88 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 22 hours ago, Bill_S said: No. That branching is from front and back cylinder banks. Here's a Pegasus from a Fairey Swordfish... We seem to be talking cross-purposes. A Pegasus is a single-banked 9 cylinder radial, a Hercules is a 14 cylinder double-banked. In the shot above, there are two exhaust ports per cylinder, so if a Pegasus, we'd expect 18 feeds into the Townend ring, an if a Hercules, only 14 (I think!) because they join the ports of the rear bank with those exiting the front bank of cylinders, before they enter the Townend ring. Do you agree? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrankyCrafstman Posted March 26, 2020 Author Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Fidd88 said: We seem to be talking cross-purposes. A Pegasus is a single-banked 9 cylinder radial, a Hercules is a 14 cylinder double-banked. In the shot above, there are two exhaust ports per cylinder, so if a Pegasus, we'd expect 18 feeds into the Townend ring, an if a Hercules, only 14 (I think!) because they join the ports of the rear bank with those exiting the front bank of cylinders, before they enter the Townend ring. Do you agree? I believe you are correct Fidd88. 14 pipes on the townend ring connected to 14 dual pipes coming from the cylinders, of which there were two different types for the Hercules. The Pegasus had all 18 pipes, individually going to the ring. I'm no expert but I believe I'm correct. Ron G 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_S Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 I concur! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrankyCrafstman Posted March 27, 2020 Author Share Posted March 27, 2020 Hey all I did some work on the wheel bay doors. I still have along way to go on them, but here are some pictures to show how far I've gotten. I found these on Bill S. build on LSP. here are mine, I only have one pair started. view of my door inner side on top his inner door below. view of my outer door on top his outer door below. Well that's all for know. I'll be back with more soon. Ron G 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrankyCrafstman Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share Posted March 29, 2020 Hey all Some more work done. I'm jumping around on this to keep motivated. Here are some pictures. I cut the fuselage lower portion from the lower inner wings. I also started on opening up the cannon ports, also the shell ejection shuts and I incresed the pilot hatch opening this is the reworked pilot hatch still need to do more work on this. view of the inner surface of the inner flap. view of the inner flap area need to do more work on these. Thats all for know I'm getting more work done on my models because of the COVD-19 shut down, I can't watch TV cause all you see is doom and gloom. Ron G 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingco57 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Very nice project. I did a complete rework of the ancient but still nice Revell Beau some years ago but you take it to a whole new level. Very enjoyable. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrankyCrafstman Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 Hey all Here's another update for you all. I've been working on the cannon ports and the pilot hatch. Here are some pictures. view showing port side cannon ports in, filled and sanded. Starboard side cut out waiting for tubes to be installed. view of cannon port tubes from the inside of the fuselage. view showing cannon barrels temporarily installed. There hard to see but there in there. another view showing the cannon ports with the guns installed. view showing the cannon barrels. I made these from a piece of 1/16" dia. Brass tube, a piece of 1.2mm dia. Brass tube insde of the 1/16" tube and a piece of 0.9mm dia. Alum. Tube inside of that (last two are from Albion). I then cut them to the length I needed. I also used some 1/8" dia. Plastic tube from Evergreen cut to length, into this I inserted the brass tube assemblies with a portion sticking out to represent the cannon barrels. These slide down to the rear end of the 3/16" dia. Plastic tubes I used for the cannon ports. The 0.9mm tube was used because the inner diameter of it is the correct size for a 20.0mm cannon barrel in 1/32 scale. view showing the 3/16" dia. Plastic tubes installed on the starboard side. These still need to be filled in and sanded. view of the bottom of the fuselage showing the pilot hatch with the ladder area cut out and the foot step hole added. Well that's all for know time for dinner. Ron G 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Excellent!!!.......harv 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingco57 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Lovely! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinnfb Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Sweet holy Moses, this is very cool ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrankyCrafstman Posted April 2, 2020 Author Share Posted April 2, 2020 Thanks guys I'm still working on it. I'll have some pics up in a while waiting for mr surfacer to dry. Ron G 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_S Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Looking good so far, Ron! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrankyCrafstman Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share Posted April 3, 2020 Ok I got some more done. I brushed on a coat of Mr surfacer 1000 onto the lower fuselage, first coat before sanding. I purchased a few weeks ago the spurs with the wheels and tires from the Tamiya Mosquito off of Ebay. They are a almost perfect fit for the Beau. so I did some modifications to them to fit the Beaufighter landing gear to them. I decided to completely remake the wheel wells in order for them to look more like the real thing. I did this out of various thicknesses of plastic card stock. I had to move the wheel well floor up into the nacelle about 3/16" which posed a problem with the kit landing gear, so I made a 1/8" thick block out of plastic stock to fit between the landing gear and the new floor of the wheel well, bringing the landing gear back to the correct position. I then cut out the center of the wheel well to create the actual wheel well. This I also made out of plastic card stock. So far I only have one partially done, but have the parts for the other one cut and ready. So here are some pictures for you to look over. lower fuselage with Mr surfacer 1000 applied. outer side of Tamiya Mosquito wheel/tire. I colored it with a black and silver sharpie. inner side of Tamiya Mosquito wheel/tire. these are the main parts for the landing gear. another view of landing gear. landing gear temporarily mounted to the kit wheel well floor. straight on view of landing gear. view looking forward into the port wheel well. view looking aft into the port wheel well. view of my scratch built wheel well floor on the left, kit part on the right for the starboard side. view of insde of port lower nacelle. another view of insde of port lower nacelle. this view shows the port wheel well with the landing gear and wheel assy. temporarily installed into the raised block I made. Well that's all for now be back soon with more updates. Ron G 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SapperSix Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Hell man this is awesome!! I am sorry I am late to the build. Excellent job and I am learning a ton. Between the comments and build this is gold. Good stuff Ron, as always. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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