Bomber_County Posted May 21, 2020 Posted May 21, 2020 Stunning, just wish I had more time to even contemplate a conversion like this. Congrats 2
woody37 Posted June 1, 2020 Posted June 1, 2020 It's nice to sit back and do some watching now Cees, the pressure I've been under from you pushing me to get it finished That undercarriage looks gorgeous. Are you going to put gators on the oleo struts? Not sure if they took them off later in the production run? 2
Wingco57 Posted June 2, 2020 Author Posted June 2, 2020 Hi Neil, I almost got burned out from this build but your Halifax magnum opus really refuelled my motivation. As a change to filling craters between the wings and nacelles, I decided to tackle the wheels and the way they are fitted to the undercarriage legs. To avoid the spaying out and cracking of the legs I cut off the overscale mountings. Drilling holes makes it possible to fit the wheels after painting without damage with a horizontal axle just like the real thing. I plan to make the gaiters as they are true to the Manchester. The prototype wheels will be sanded smooth and also reduced in circumference. 8
ThomasProbert Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 Good to see some more progress on this, Cees. The undercart is looking good and I’ll remember the axle technique when it comes to doing the landing gear on my Shackleton. Cheers! Tom 4
Jeff Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 MASTER Class in engineering.... this is fabulous............ 2
Wingco57 Posted June 3, 2020 Author Posted June 3, 2020 No it isn’t, just a bit of aanklooien. Made a start at fabricating the landing lights set up in the leading edge. No detailpics or drawing so will have to do some guesswork based on similar set ups in contemporary RAF aircraft. And about those gaiters, the drawing and the undercarriage leg. Any idea how to make those ridges? I tried thin metal wire but that was too stiff, leadwire or knicker elastic perhaps? Anyone? 6
FME erk Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 I would suggest possibly some 4 or 7mm corrugated strip that you could have and wrap it around each section . . . . It has ridges so without having a go myself, the 7mm scale MIGHT look the better of te two ??? Just a thought Cees 3
Wingco57 Posted June 4, 2020 Author Posted June 4, 2020 In the end I used telephonewire, the ends of which are difficult to get a neat effect but it will have to make do. I gave them a coat of mr surfacer 1000 which evened out things a bit. Not entirely satisfied but that’s life. A coat of black paint will make them look better. 7
woody37 Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 Sorry Cees, just checked in, back at work this week so it's been a shock to the system coming out of retirement lol! Great job on those gators, it's quite an important characteristic that separates the Lanc from the Manchester I think...well apart from the obvious no. of engines! I took the same approach on the Halifax gear in drilling through and using brass tube as an axle. Keep up the great work Cheers Neil 2
Wingco57 Posted June 6, 2020 Author Posted June 6, 2020 Doing just that working on the aileronhinges. The prototype had some chunky misshapen blobs, so new ones had to be made, they slightly overhang the aileron gap. Cees 9
Wingco57 Posted June 10, 2020 Author Posted June 10, 2020 Not much progress, but I made a representation of the aileron fittings to the aileron. This nicely fill the mounting holes in the aileron itself. next, massive filling and sanding session coming up. 6
Wingco57 Posted June 11, 2020 Author Posted June 11, 2020 Sorry, but I have to say that I don't want likes by either emoticons or written, I prefer constructive criticism that I can learn from. If nobody reacts I may save myself time not posting anything
Anthony in NZ Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 Sorry Cees In actual fact I am learning from you by observing your skills. Such a great project and I don't know how I can contribute except say 'thanks for posting'. Problem is I feel like I might come off insincere....when that is far from the truth. By clicking on the 'like' I feel like I am letting you know I am enjoying your updates and following along. I do get what you mean though, my big 24th Mossie build on LSP is an enormous amount of work, and sucks the life out of me at times. Comments really do help spur me along! Please don't stop posting, I just LOVE your work. I especially cant wait for you to get back to the Phantom, but this Manchester is something else! I especially come to LSM at the moment specifically for this thread! Cheers Anthony 3
harv Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 Anthony,I feel exactly the same. Cees, you take our silence to seriously. We watch and learn from you. You are very good at your craft and the rest of us, well you know. I hope you continue and let us follow your journey....harv 2
woody37 Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 Cees, can only echo Harvs and Anthony's comments. I'm enjoying sitting back and watching a master do a beautiful job on this. If I could see one aircraft at Telford this year, it would be this. Don't let this modelling malarky burn you out, I know it can do that to us sometimes, we are obsessive with detail by nature. I have sat there for several hours some days pondering on how I am going to make something that is smaller than a fingernail. Now that is a pretty weird thing to do by normal people standards Cheers Neil 2
FME erk Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 Cees I dont feel I can comment other than I really enjoy the work you are doing, watching and learning like many others I only undertake small simple conversions but your work goes well beyond that so I dont think I am qualified to do so .. .. .. I am probably only 'average' when it comes to modeling and I feel that I can only add simple suggestions such as for the gaters on the u/c struts. I am relatively new here so I certainly am not in the position to criticise Please continue the good work . . . . Ian 2
GazzaS Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 Love what you've done to make the oleo boots. One of the things that irks me is having to remove the mold seam on springs or other things that don;t look good once you scrape them. Great stuff! 2
Bomber_County Posted June 13, 2020 Posted June 13, 2020 Cees, as the others said, your conversion and modelling skills are daunting, so I think some guys think they are not qualified to comment. I notice you said you use P38 as a filler, or did I dream that, if so is the P38 “to hot” for styrene? 2
woody37 Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 On 6/13/2020 at 1:56 PM, Bomber_County said: Cees, as the others said, your conversion and modelling skills are daunting, so I think some guys think they are not qualified to comment. I notice you said you use P38 as a filler, or did I dream that, if so is the P38 “to hot” for styrene? P38 is excellent on styrene, no reaction whatsoever and zero shrinkage. It's a joy to sand. The only drawback in my opinion is getting it on neatly, but because it sands well, it's no big deal 1
harv Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 Just did a quick search on P38. Seems it readily available. Thanks Cees 1
Bomber_County Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 Sorry guys, probably P38 is a European term, not sure.......mainly used for car repairs and often referred to as “plod”......... 1
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