Administrators Clunkmeister Posted July 16, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted July 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, Grunhertz said: Well its going to be bright great stuff Yeah there’ll be no missing this one 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaS Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Ern, Just found this over at FB. It was taken in 93' at Duxford. Mebbe it'll prove helpful in weathering the exhaust stains on the big beast. Gaz 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted July 16, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted July 16, 2019 Thanks Gazz, and yes it does. Some old pics of the 10MR's show some pretty severe exhaust staining on the nacelles as well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted July 19, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted July 19, 2019 I’ve been hitting the bench every evening now because time, although doable, is in short supply. I hope t have the aluminum on by tomorrow night, and then panels done Saturday evening. Hopefully glosscoat on Sunday followed by decals Wings on next week, finish landing gear, and final Bits the week after. I foresee no issues in my way go being done in time other than a Honey-Do list. Add to that the local Boffin Waffen kids from up and down the street are coming over Saturday afternoon to build snap-tite P-40s and P-51s, time is getting short. I expect I’ll take the Thursday and Friday before leaving for Chattanooga to finalize the bleedin’ thing. I see some 5 o’clock shadow! Scheiße! I should have masked farther back. Good thing Mission Primer is going on over the Mr. Surfacer 500. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrankyCrafstman Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Looking good Ernie. Would like to see that in person. Ron G 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted July 19, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted July 19, 2019 Are you able to make the Nats, Ron? I know you have some health issues so I’m not sure... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrankyCrafstman Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Not this year, but would like to go next year as long as it ain't on the west coast. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted July 19, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted July 19, 2019 Read the new Nats thread, Ron. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sluggo Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 11 hours ago, Clunkmeister said: Scheiße! That's no hill for a stepper like you Ern. This is going to be at the Nats? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Ernie, you seriously need to take this to the guys who are restoring the real one , so they get more inspiration............ I bet they would love to see this..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chek Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 9:24 PM, GazzaS said: Ern, Just found this over at FB. It was taken in 93' at Duxford. Mebbe it'll prove helpful in weathering the exhaust stains on the big beast. Gaz I have an as yet not fully proven theory that suggests some caution when interpreting photos for Lancaster exhaust stain patterns. The (usually) wartime aircraft fitted with the exhaust shrouds tend to show soot stains on both sides of the inner engines, but only on the inner side of the outer ones. Over time, a less heavy trail may also develop from the outer side of the outer engines but it's much less common. I suspect it to be due to some kind of venturi acceleration effect caused by the shrouds. On post-war Lancs without the shrouds, the staining seems to build up fairly evenly on both sides of the outer engine across the top of the wing. Being heavier, most of the greyish/white lead deposits are stuck to the cowling sides and go under the wing, with much less evidence over the wing. No doubt there are exceptions to be found, but that seems to be the general pattern I've observed from several hundred photos, 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaS Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 19 hours ago, Clunkmeister said: I’ve been hitting the bench every evening now because time, although doable, is in short supply. I hope t have the aluminum on by tomorrow night, and then panels done Saturday evening. Hopefully glosscoat on Sunday followed by decals Wings on next week, finish landing gear, and final Bits the week after. I foresee no issues in my way go being done in time other than a Honey-Do list. Add to that the local Boffin Waffen kids from up and down the street are coming over Saturday afternoon to build snap-tite P-40s and P-51s, time is getting short. I expect I’ll take the Thursday and Friday before leaving for Chattanooga to finalize the bleedin’ thing. I see some 5 o’clock shadow! Scheiße! I should have masked farther back. Good thing Mission Primer is going on over the Mr. Surfacer 500. Looking real sharp. Ernie! Do you have a process when removing your masks/tape to keep the paint from tearing or getting a jagged edge look? Criminy! You know it's a big model when only 1 wing crosses the bench top and hangs over the edge. Keep it up! Gaz 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted July 19, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted July 19, 2019 Gazz, nope, it's be hook or by crook. I could do better, but don't. I FUBAR'd up one edge and need to redo it tonight. I try to paint all the non metal colors first, then do the masking and shoot the silver. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted July 19, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted July 19, 2019 6 hours ago, chek said: I have an as yet not fully proven theory that suggests some caution when interpreting photos for Lancaster exhaust stain patterns. The (usually) wartime aircraft fitted with the exhaust shrouds tend to show soot stains on both sides of the inner engines, but only on the inner side of the outer ones. Over time, a less heavy trail may also develop from the outer side of the outer engines but it's much less common. I suspect it to be due to some kind of venturi acceleration effect caused by the shrouds. On post-war Lancs without the shrouds, the staining seems to build up fairly evenly on both sides of the outer engine across the top of the wing. Being heavier, most of the greyish/white lead deposits are stuck to the cowling sides and go under the wing, with much less evidence over the wing. No doubt there are exceptions to be found, but that seems to be the general pattern I've observed from several hundred photos, i've been looking at that as well, and my example showed remarkable staining on the cowl panels and also on top of the wing, just as the picture shows and you describe. I expect that quite possibly toward the end of their service lives, these Lancs may have had less careful maintenance performed on the Merlins, or maybe less care was given for longevity, knowing than they'll run them 'till they break. Interestingly enough, I've found evidence that the Canadians painted the tops and bottoms of the wing around the nacelles with Vooddoo grey to match the lower fuselage. Supposedly to stop possible metal contamination of the bare skin? Not all aircraft had this, and most that had it lost it, with others that didn't have it, gaining it. I do NOT see evidence of that grey being applied on this aircraft, which is too bad, as I wanted to paint it on. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted July 20, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted July 20, 2019 So while the wings are drying, we check the canopy. There are two “late” styles for greenhouse arrangement, and I’m going with the version I chose a few months back. Working off these pics, here’s my style: As opposed to this: So, we start with this: 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted July 20, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted July 20, 2019 Notice that on the version I chose, the lightning slash is farther back along the fuselage. So, now we make the cuts to remove the small bubble and make room for a flat panel for the ADF receiver. WARNING: Not for the squeamish or those with trembly fingers and/or a heart condition Now we fill with Apoxie Sculpt clay and allow to cure, then follow by light skim if Tamiya putty, mask, sand, and paint GREAT SUCCESS! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted July 20, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted July 20, 2019 Everybody say to me, “WHY”? I say “Because I Can”! I’m not a huge fan of the white top greenhouse, and the version I like is a bit of both: sheeted over and still open in spots. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted July 21, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted July 21, 2019 Well, there were a few visible flaws on the wings, so I spent most of the evening prepping the surfaces. I even found a couple seams on a nacelle that I had somehow overlooked. Putty up, sand some more, then a quick shot of MMP Primer. We’ll look them over again in the morning before Sunday Morning Meetings, and if all’s good, a shot of MMP aluminum followed by a quick mist of chrome. Tasteful Dural, white aluminum, and cull aluminum panels after that. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunhertz Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 You but have shares in tamiya tape for this beast, looks great however 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Absolutely beautiful Ern....wish I could see her in real life. Post War aircraft and schemes are my fav's. Well done sir 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted July 21, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted July 21, 2019 7 hours ago, Grunhertz said: You but have shares in tamiya tape for this beast, looks great however Yeah I expect my LHS and Mr. Tamiya love me right about now. 6 hours ago, Anthony in NZ said: Absolutely beautiful Ern....wish I could see her in real life. Post War aircraft and schemes are my fav's. Well done sir Thanks Anthony. I like building different looking stuff, and this one’s been a dream ever since it was announced that HK would be coming out with a Lanc. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sluggo Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Not to jack Ern's thread but I think this is a good time to drop this tip. I have purchased a roll of this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000QEBEXC/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A23VKRUGUD63LA&psc=1 and I can not distinguish it from Tamiya tape. Obviously it does not replace the need for the thinner rolls of Tamiya but it's a helluva lot more economical for general masking. And lasts forever...... been tapping into my roll since 2014 for plastic models and RC stuff and I still have half a roll. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, sluggo said: Not to jack Ern's thread but I think this is a good time to drop this tip. I have purchased a roll of this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000QEBEXC/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A23VKRUGUD63LA&psc=1 and I can not distinguish it from Tamiya tape. Obviously it does not replace the need for the thinner rolls of Tamiya but it's a helluva lot more economical for general masking. And lasts forever...... been tapping into my roll since 2014 for plastic models and RC stuff and I still have half a roll. GEEZ................... 14 bucks to ship it to Canada ! so much for that idea................. thanks Sluggo, I will sniff around for it.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted July 21, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted July 21, 2019 Thanks Sluggo! Tamiya tape gets insanely expensive when you’re masking big birds multiples of times. I’ll be picking some of that up forthwith. If it’s as good as Tamiya tape, I’m in. I use the Pactra flexible tale as well and I’ve yet to find a substitute. It can get hard to source as well, and the only thing Tamiya tape doesn’t do well is bend. Maybe there’s something to these Luftwaffe mottled schemes after all? 74,75,76 sounds so easy right about now. And early 109s are my thing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinnfb Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Tons of tapes available from China https://www.ebay.ca/itm/100cm-Masking-Tape-for-DIY-Art-Crafts-Package-Model-Painting-Supplies-Orange/392298410005?hash=item5b56ceb015:g:GLgAAOSw0npc3wGA 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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