Administrators Clunkmeister Posted June 14, 2022 Administrators Share Posted June 14, 2022 On 6/12/2022 at 2:45 PM, JohnB said: I decided to set the windscreen in place just to check the fit. Here's what I found. ALWAYS gotta be SOMETHING!!! Hold on a second. Not saying you’re wrong, but did you check references? The Brewster Buffalo has an overhang like this that drove me insane until I saw it in a picture. But what I’d do here is simply just carefully sand the edge down to fit. No muss, no fuss, and 5 minutes out of your life. I DO agree it’s a bit much to expect, but the rest of the windscreen looks decent, so, onward and upward. That being said, John, you’re kicking some serious donkey on this one! Keep it up, I’m really liking what I’m seeing. The one thing you’ve convinced me of though is that I’ll be using the entire Resin2Detail cockpit on mine. That aftermarket pit is just loaded with detail. So much so, that if you’re not careful, you’ll cut off pipes, not sprues 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinnfb Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 maybe a bit of putty can do the trick 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaS Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Looks like a great place for a scratch=built fillet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterpools Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 15 hours ago, JohnB said: Good call I think Peter! Here's a link to their Vampire, https://www.infinitymodels.cz/en/pripravujeme/vampire/ Thanks John for the link. The kit looks pretty simply and from what they show, not bad. After what you have been going through, I wouldn't venture into buying one without reading a bunch of completed build reviews and never put any faith in, in box review, as they leave much to be desired. Maybe with the kit being design from the start as an injection molded kit rather then a rework of the HPH resin ki, this might increased the accuracy and address the fit issues. At best, it's a wait and see game now and I'm firmly standing on the wait and see side of the fence. Keep 'em comin Peter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinM Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Now that it's been pointed out the hangover is legit do you think with some sanding and a paper patch it will mirror the pic? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnB Posted June 14, 2022 Author Share Posted June 14, 2022 12 hours ago, Clunkmeister said: Good to see you onboard, Andy. I have this as well and will be giving it a go once I wrap up my MiG-29 and D.Vll. Gonna be epic, John, just starting to read through now. Good luck Ernie! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnB Posted June 14, 2022 Author Share Posted June 14, 2022 19 hours ago, Clunkmeister said: Hold on a second. Not saying you’re wrong, but did you check references? The Brewster Buffalo has an overhang like this that drove me insane until I saw it in a picture. But what I’d do here is simply just carefully sand the edge down to fit. No muss, no fuss, and 5 minutes out of your life. I DO agree it’s a bit much to expect, but the rest of the windscreen looks decent, so, onward and upward. That being said, John, you’re kicking some serious donkey on this one! Keep it up, I’m really liking what I’m seeing. The one thing you’ve convinced me of though is that I’ll be using the entire Resin2Detail cockpit on mine. That aftermarket pit is just loaded with detail. So much so, that if you’re not careful, you’ll cut off pipes, not sprues Yes Ernie I did check references thank you. I did do a little trimming and the fit is better now. I'll just say, this and some of the other headaches, shouldn't have to be addressed in a kit that costs so much. I wasn't expecting Hasegawa or Tamiya quality when I started the build but come on, Infinity Models quality of fit, etc should equal the quality of the surface detail on the SB2CSOB. 😐 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnB Posted June 14, 2022 Author Share Posted June 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Peterpools said: Thanks John for the link. The kit looks pretty simply and from what they show, not bad. After what you have been going through, I wouldn't venture into buying one without reading a bunch of completed build reviews and never put any faith in, in box review, as they leave much to be desired. Maybe with the kit being design from the start as an injection molded kit rather then a rework of the HPH resin ki, this might increased the accuracy and address the fit issues. At best, it's a wait and see game now and I'm firmly standing on the wait and see side of the fence. Keep 'em comin Peter Good plan Peter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnB Posted June 14, 2022 Author Share Posted June 14, 2022 51 minutes ago, KevinM said: Now that it's been pointed out the hangover is legit do you think with some sanding and a paper patch it will mirror the pic? After I did a little trimming/sanding it looks acceptable now. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnB Posted June 14, 2022 Author Share Posted June 14, 2022 A little more progress. The windscreen seems to be fitting fairly well now. I attached the engine and taped the cowling in place to check it's fit. Topside is okay but the underside is another story. I'll have to lay on some styrene strip there. Just another thing to fix. 🤪 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterpools Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 John Good to see you're making progress on the Helldiver and I can fully understand your feelings about all the molding errors in the kit. Just takes all the joy out of the equation Keep 'em comin Peter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnB Posted June 14, 2022 Author Share Posted June 14, 2022 20 minutes ago, Peterpools said: John Good to see you're making progress on the Helldiver and I can fully understand your feelings about all the molding errors in the kit. Just takes all the joy out of the equation Keep 'em comin Peter Thanks Peter. The poor quality of most of the moldings and related fit problems do take away a lot of the enjoyment. I've done some preliminary work on the wings and I have to say, it looks like THAT'S going to be a real chore. 😉 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterpools Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 John Oh the joy and fun Keep 'em comin Peter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npb748r Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 2 hours ago, JohnB said: Topside is okay but the underside is another story. I'll have to lay on some styrene strip there. Just another thing to fix. 🤪 it's horses for courses but I'd make sure the topside is perfect and used an old lolly pop stick and some thick glue to fix the underside - once up on it's wheels put it on a low shelf and nobody will see under there and you'll forget after a few years Despite the problems faced you are making it look good, clearly your modelling skills are easily up to the task in hand. Mine are not at that level but I'm still going to give this kit a go based on what you've done. I suspect that at the end of the build you will feel a certain amount of satisfaction that it's made you work hard for the great results - something you would not have got if it was closer to shake and bake !! Keep going, you are inspiring me to do mine. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnB Posted June 14, 2022 Author Share Posted June 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, npb748r said: it's horses for courses but I'd make sure the topside is perfect and used an old lolly pop stick and some thick glue to fix the underside - once up on it's wheels put it on a low shelf and nobody will see under there and you'll forget after a few years Despite the problems faced you are making it look good, clearly your modelling skills are easily up to the task in hand. Mine are not at that level but I'm still going to give this kit a go based on what you've done. I suspect that at the end of the build you will feel a certain amount of satisfaction that it's made you work hard for the great results - something you would not have got if it was closer to shake and bake !! Keep going, you are inspiring me to do mine. I very much appreciate the kind comments! It helps to make the build more worthwhile when you know it might be a inspiration to other modelers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Clunkmeister Posted June 15, 2022 Administrators Share Posted June 15, 2022 As I think Peter said, I think many of the issues being experienced are built in for converting molds designed for resin into proper IM molds. My bet is that the Vampire will be a whole new ball of wax. And the Vampire is a model we desperately need in 1/32. John, I blazed the way on the Kitty Hawk T-28. And the Kitty Hawk F-5F. My T-28B first was possibly the very first production kit built, period. I found the problems and workarounds, and it’s a great feeling to be able to attempt it and complete it. I guarantee you that you’ll find the same feeling at the end, and will experience the same joy in being able to show others the way. And, I expect you’ll soon be building another,… YOUR way with all the bells and whistles. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnB Posted June 15, 2022 Author Share Posted June 15, 2022 57 minutes ago, Clunkmeister said: As I think Peter said, I think many of the issues being experienced are built in for converting molds designed for resin into proper IM molds. My bet is that the Vampire will be a whole new ball of wax. And the Vampire is a model we desperately need in 1/32. John, I blazed the way on the Kitty Hawk T-28. And the Kitty Hawk F-5F. My T-28B first was possibly the very first production kit built, period. I found the problems and workarounds, and it’s a great feeling to be able to attempt it and complete it. I guarantee you that you’ll find the same feeling at the end, and will experience the same joy in being able to show others the way. And, I expect you’ll soon be building another,… YOUR way with all the bells and whistles. Thank you Ernie. I hope and expect this one will be a good looking model despite all the problems. However Ernie, there is NO WAY I'll want to build another one. 🤪 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GazzaS Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Is it done yet? Sorry John... I expect some kind of tempo from you. Just kidding! I'm sure it'll be beauty when you're done. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnB Posted June 15, 2022 Author Share Posted June 15, 2022 8 hours ago, GazzaS said: Is it done yet? Sorry John... I expect some kind of tempo from you. Just kidding! I'm sure it'll be beauty when you're done. LOL Gaz. I hope it will be worth all the hassle but we will see. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnB Posted June 15, 2022 Author Share Posted June 15, 2022 More progress but one more problem found. I test fit the rear gunners turtleback window and found this problem with the fit. It's one thing after another on this SB2CSOB. 😐 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterpools Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 John Nice work at tackling all the issues and problems that seem to pop up at every stage. Getting this beast done is a major accomplishment for sure. Keep 'em comin Peter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HubertB Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 You know how the Navy guys of the time translated « SB2C » ? « Son of a B…h 2nd Class ». Looks appropriate in 1/32 as well Hubert 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnB Posted June 15, 2022 Author Share Posted June 15, 2022 10 minutes ago, HubertB said: You know how the Navy guys of the time translated « SB2C » ? « Son of a B…h 2nd Class ». Looks appropriate in 1/32 as well Hubert Very much so Hubert. 🤪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnB Posted June 15, 2022 Author Share Posted June 15, 2022 Test fitting the wings. Not too bad I think. Fingers crossed. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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