1/32 HobbyBoss Invader A-26B (a Joke?)

[Martinnfb]

So here is the link.

Please count the cylinders and tell me it is a joke,  1.April or something

 

[Jeff]

HHHMMMM  Not even April 1st yet...................

[1to1scale]

Oops! 
 

7 or 9....I ain’t neva bin good at gazintas...

[Jeff]

1 hour ago, 1to1scale said:

Oops! 
 

7 or 9....I ain’t neva bin good at gazintas...

Boy.........................  you have got to be a certain age to know who this guy is....................................

[CrankyCrafstman]

Yupp dem is supposed to be R-2800-71! Thats a big f-up!!!  This is going to be worse then the B-24  And I'll bet you the props are not the 12' 7" dia. they are supposed to be either.

Ron G 

 

[HubertB]

Maybe it started off as an A-20 then got redirected to an A-26 ... Anyone checked the A-20 cowlings to see how they look like compared to the kit’s ones  ?

Hubert

[[CAT]CplSlade]

2 hours ago, Jeff said:

Boy.........................  you have got to be a certain age to know who this guy is....................................

Yeah, that's the son of the 1934 heavyweight boxing champ.

[Barry]

28 minutes ago, [CAT]CplSlade said:

Yeah, that's the son of the 1934 heavyweight boxing champ.

Yep the old "Double Naught Spy" himself!

[Artful69]

10 hours ago, HubertB said:

Maybe it started off as an A-20 then got redirected to an A-26 ... Anyone checked the A-20 cowlings to see how they look like compared to the kit’s ones  ?

Hubert

Actually ... you might be onto something there ... it’ll be like the Stuka ... they’ll release an A-20 next and the nacelles and engines will be from an A-26B Invader... buy both to get your aircraft accurate!!

Rog

[Old Dog]

I think it's a conspiracy, they must be in league with the after market folks !

[HubertB]

44 minutes ago, Old Dog said:

I think it's a conspiracy, they must be in league with the after market folks !

Yes, if you want it absolutely right, you’ll have to buy two R-2800 engines. And I’m sure that you will soon have correctly-profiled cowlings on Shapeways. Given their shape, they are fairly easy to design.

I can very well imagine the designer starting with 14-cylinders engine designs, finding the engines « floated » in the designed cowlings, and changing the shape of the cowlings to fit the engines more closely. Looks like a cascade of blunders even a Hollywood film-maker would not even think of dreaming off  ...

Anyway, as Rog pointed, take it and keep it, take it and change it, or avoid it. What’s done is done ...

Hubert

[1to1scale]

I don’t think the engines would be hard to correct, I’m guessing somebody like Brassin will make a replacement set.

[Clunkmeister]

8 hours ago, Artful69 said:

Actually ... you might be onto something there ... it’ll be like the Stuka ... they’ll release an A-20 next and the nacelles and engines will be from an A-26B Invader... buy both to get your aircraft accurate!!

Rog

Rog, isn't that what happened with the F-84? A speedbrake swap between the two versions?  Between all of us here, I expect we can put our collective heads together and come up with thoughtful fixes for the issues. Like what happened with the F-84.

[Clunkmeister]

2 hours ago, 1to1scale said:

I don’t think the engines would be hard to correct, I’m guessing somebody like Brassin will make a replacement set.

Exactly. And many, if not most of us would work on a kit's engines anyway, so no big deal.

[krow113]

This seems to be a healthy discussion.

More along the lines of what I will read and be interested in.

Is there collusion between manufacturers and A/M producers? I think there is a little , but not worrisome to me.

[Clunkmeister]

On 3/31/2020 at 11:51 AM, Martinnfb said:

So here is the link.

Please count the cylinders and tell me it is a joke,  1.April or something

 

R2600 Twin Cyclone

[[CAT]CplSlade]

6 hours ago, HubertB said:

Looks like a cascade of blunders even a Hollywood film-maker would not even think of dreaming off  ...

Maybe if Hobby Boss included a Starbucks cup to set on the radio operator's station it would surpass Hollywood.

[[CAT]CplSlade]

1 hour ago, Clunkmeister said:

R2600 Twin Cyclone

Was it used in the A-26? I see it listed for the A-20, so that would lend some weight to the theory the kit started out as an A-20 but someone decided to shift gears midway through.

[Clunkmeister]

1 hour ago, [CAT]CplSlade said:

Was it used in the A-26? I see it listed for the A-20, so that would lend some weight to the theory the kit started out as an A-20 but someone decided to shift gears midway through.

Yep, it was used in the A-20 and the Helldiver for sure, not sure of others.

[BlrwestSiR]

Would the Quickboost R-2800 work as a substitute?

https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/QB32036?result-token=CPsjU

 

[Martinnfb]

Exactly, I am also hoping that HB will pick this up before they finalize the release. Such a nice airframe.

[[CAT]CplSlade]

46 minutes ago, BlrwestSiR said:

Would the Quickboost R-2800 work as a substitute?

https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/QB32036?result-token=CPsjU

 

I guess we need the internal dimensions of the kit's cowlings and the dimensions of that resin piece to determine that. Someone has mentioned the cowlings look a bit undersized (to accommodate the smaller engine, I guess).

[nmayhew]

On 4/1/2020 at 10:57 PM, Martinnfb said:

Exactly, I am also hoping that HB will pick this up before they finalize the release. Such a nice airframe.

 

the chances of that are near zero surely?

I think the solution is obviously wait for an aftermarket resin insert, which should be pretty simple

it's not like any clear parts are required eg Liberator turrets

yes it's a goof and yes it's pretty cringeful but hey no-one else looks like making one (ICM maybe?), so unless you like fiddling around with vac nonsense, this is it I'm afraid

stay safe

[ThomasProbert]

23 hours ago, nmayhew said:

yes it's a goof and yes it's pretty cringeful but hey no-one else looks like making one (ICM maybe?), so unless you like fiddling around with vac nonsense, this is it I'm afraid

An interesting point indeed - in this case the ‘vac nonsense’ would likely be the better option if you want an accurate Invader in 1/32nd scale.

Perhaps more modellers should in fact build more ‘vac nonsense’ and dig out those old ID Models Invaders buried deep in their stashes and get cracking.

[HubertB]

3 hours ago, ThomasProbert said:

An interesting point indeed - in this case the ‘vac nonsense’ would likely be the better option if you want an accurate Invader in 1/32nd scale.

Perhaps more modellers should in fact build more ‘vac nonsense’ and dig out those old ID Models Invaders buried deep in their stashes and get cracking.

In fairness, Tom, a lot of these old vacs are sometimes not as accurate ( no idea for the ID/Tigger/Combat A-26, but I am thinking of the Hampden for instance ... ) as one could expect them to be. Plus there IS a difference between a good female-molding vac (like Welsh Models 1/144 liners) and the sometimes rough male-master vacs ...

Where I am 200 % with you, is that vacform kits are more maligned than they really deserve. And resin AM and now 3D printing make the option far easier now than ever.

Hubert