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Ernie, thanks for checking in. 

Doing an RCAF bird just made sense once I found out we used them. The Eduard Riders in the Sky 1/72 kit was the impetus for this and I almost bought one but then found the decals for this kit. 

The wing shape is a huge mistake on Hobby Boss' part and Iain is doing a great job fixing it. I probably have the skill to do what he's doing but I knew that if I tried, the motivation to finish would be a huge bear to maintain. I mean, I'm almost to the home stretch and I'm already looking at other kits to build and set this aside again. 

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13 hours ago, BlrwestSiR said:

Ernie, thanks for checking in. 

Doing an RCAF bird just made sense once I found out we used them. The Eduard Riders in the Sky 1/72 kit was the impetus for this and I almost bought one but then found the decals for this kit. 

The wing shape is a huge mistake on Hobby Boss' part and Iain is doing a great job fixing it. I probably have the skill to do what he's doing but I knew that if I tried, the motivation to finish would be a huge bear to maintain. I mean, I'm almost to the home stretch and I'm already looking at other kits to build and set this aside again. 

Agreed Carl.  
When I’m ready for a modeling challenge like none before, I’m gonna try Iain’s trick.  But I’ll also understand that I may lose the build over it if I fubar the thing. 

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1 minute ago, Clunkmeister said:

Agreed Carl.  
When I’m ready for a modeling challenge like none before, I’m gonna try Iain’s trick.  But I’ll also understand that I may lose the build over it if I fubar the thing. 

Your the one to do it cupcake....harv

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Ok, as previously mentioned I've picked up and started working on the Lib again. I couldn't remember where I left off but I did have the superchargers sitting on the bench so I started with painting and installing those. 

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Then, while going over the turret interiors, I found the misplaced Quickboost prop blade so I did those next. 

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I figured it was best to see how the shark mouth fit and worked. Good thing too as the decal requires you to mask and spray the black background. There's no template provided so I tried to make one. I stuck a piece of Japanese style masking tape on the decal sheet and traced out the shark mouth.

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Well, when I removed it, something interesting happened. The tape pulled the decal right off the carrier film! You can see the round circle is mostly gone. The ink came right off the sheet. 

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Time for Plan B. Which may have been more what I would have done anyways. I laid out the shark mouth on the nose using masking tape. 

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I then filled in the centre just leaving the edge.

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Now it's ready for some paint. 

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At this point, I decided to mask off the roundels and the tailplane fin flashes too.

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The problem here is I didn't have a dedicated set of roundels for the Lib so I hunted around in my stash. I thought Lancaster ones might work but they're much larger. I then found the correct diameter ones in a Tempest kit. But they were old and a bit warped. Not wanting to wait, I used them anyways. This is not something I recommend unless you have patience and experience using masks. They have to be carefully re-aligned and it still won't be 100% perfect fit. 

To remedy this I sealed the masks between elements so any possible gaps were covered and I sprayed them out of order. I started with the red centre, then the yellow border, then masked the red and white and sprayed the blue last. 

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The wing roundels were easier as they were just two colours. These I cut by hand to the correct diameter from frisket. 

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Lastly, the fin flashes were done just using plain tape to mark them out. 

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After all that here's what I ended up with. 

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The shark mouth still needs more done but the red outline worked out. 

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There's been a lot of talk about the wing profile but I understand that the actual wing shape was a bit different. It was called a Davis wing if I remember correctly. Anyway,

nice work Carl. I'd like to tackle that beast......if I had a spare bedroom to put it in...that is!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davis_wing

 

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1 hour ago, belugawhaleman said:

There's been a lot of talk about the wing profile but I understand that the actual wing shape was a bit different. It was called a Davis wing if I remember correctly. Anyway,

nice work Carl. I'd like to tackle that beast......if I had a spare bedroom to put it in...that is!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davis_wing

 

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The wing profile on the kit is definitely off. The work to fix is way more than I wanted to do so I'm living with it as is. 

It's a huge kit, that's for sure. It dwarves the Lancaster. 

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The shark mouth was an interesting challenge. I decided to trace the decal onto some tracing paper. 

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I then copied this onto some masking tape and cut it out by hand. 

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This was repeated for the top and bottom and both sides. 

The teeth were then applied to the model, trying to line them up as best as possible with the red outline. 

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A bit of black and a moment's hesitation, then I pulled the masks off.

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A small bit of touch up is needed but it worked.

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10 hours ago, belugawhaleman said:

There's been a lot of talk about the wing profile but I understand that the actual wing shape was a bit different. It was called a Davis wing if I remember correctly. Anyway,

nice work Carl. I'd like to tackle that beast......if I had a spare bedroom to put it in...that is!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davis_wing

 

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Paul

Thank you for the link, fascinating reading. 

 

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16 hours ago, belugawhaleman said:

There's been a lot of talk about the wing profile but I understand that the actual wing shape was a bit different. It was called a Davis wing if I remember correctly. Anyway,

nice work Carl. I'd like to tackle that beast......if I had a spare bedroom to put it in...that is!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davis_wing

 

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Not only is the kit’s wing profile off by a lot, but it’s also set at a wrong incidence … And yes it’s A LOT of work to put it right …

Nice work on the Lib’ , Carl 👍 !

Hubert

PS: in case you do not know the site, this is where you can plot any airfoil: just enter the basic data like chord, thickness/chord ratio, incidence (« pitch » on the calculation table), the wing profile, et voilà !

http://airfoiltools.com/plotter/index
 

Hubert

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8 hours ago, HubertB said:

Not only is the kit’s wing profile off by a lot, but it’s also set at a wrong incidence … And yes it’s A LOT of work to put it right …

Nice work on the Lib’ , Carl 👍 !

Hubert

PS: in case you do not know the site, this is where you can plot any airfoil: just enter the basic data like chord, thickness/chord ratio, incidence (« pitch » on the calculation table), the wing profile, et voilà !

http://airfoiltools.com/plotter/index
 

Hubert

Glorioski! Hubert!  I never said it was right!

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